That's the only b-approved position we need

the father = Eugene Stoner
The father = Mikhail Kalashnikov
The Holy Spirit = Edmund Heckler&Theodor Koch

I pray to my lord and savior, Eugene Stoner and his son, Mikhail Kalashnikov@Bender im interested in your church

@Crye_Salesman you nd I may think it’s wrong but who is to say it’s bad if it works for them.

Dude why aren't we mentioning fuckin John Moses Browning lol

too many to name

@Jonpatron Saint of ass whoopin

Like a solid baseline of that if I was a child I wouldn’t want to be abused? Is that not enough? @Karlow Alderam

Mormons invented the good American guns lol

wait

The father should be Hugo Schmeisser, he made the AK not Kalashnikov

crye, karlow

what are you guys arguing about

@Jon true

LOL

oh man

that was ***dark***

that was dark even by my fucking standards

@Crye_Salesman Fair enough, as Americans, it’s anyone’s right to not be forced to believe in God and to live their life as long as they aren’t harming or infringing on others.

Oh man what did I miss in there

The question was on the separation of church and state and the religious subtext in the constitution

church and state should ***always*** be separated

I mean I would like to clarify @Karlow Alderam, that this is a philosophical discussion, I have no problem with people of any religion, I just like to debate

My bad. Ive got terribly dark humor. And unfortunate experience in that. Not from church but personally non the less

@minorthreat but does that negate the declaration of rights all bc it mentioned God?

Eh I think we could chop that up to period, and just replace it with natural rights?

You have the rights you're willing to take and defend

well technically

I don't care if God says you can or can't rape my kids. I said you can't, and I have a gun

@Karlow Alderam that was my question

the constitution doesn't mention God specifically does it? it just says the creator

True

@Crye_Salesman I don’t mind discussions either bro man. We as Americans are at least called to be moral men, with balls of steel, who will go above and beyond to secure freedom and prosperity for our nation and their peoples.

@Bender the founders mentioned Providence and the creator, specifically avoided God

To avoid alienation

"peoples", that's a third rail lol

founding fathers were fucking BASED

I’m not religious I just enjoy the discussion with level headed people

except for the owning slaves part

i dont like that part

but other than that they were based as fuck