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2017-02-20 19:19:37 UTC  

Do they have a loft bed too?

2017-02-20 19:25:47 UTC  

An Alt-Righter with opinion on matching shoes and socks properly hatches from the egg

2017-02-20 19:29:13 UTC  

Wrath of Gnon is the #1 ovenposter there is

2017-02-20 19:31:50 UTC  

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2017-02-20 19:47:26 UTC  

altright book club Resergence is having our book club meeting in about 15 mins on https://discord.gg/N7EAkcB that discord server. feel free to join us even if you've never read The Master and margarita!

2017-02-20 19:50:40 UTC  

@Jossi I'll skip this one Ever since I haven't got time to read the book due to tons of stuff i've been doing

2017-02-20 19:50:53 UTC  

If you do postpone it in the end i'll have it read

2017-02-20 19:53:55 UTC  

okay we are thinking of putting it off until like the 28 or so

2017-02-20 19:54:21 UTC  

depends on how many people showo up

2017-02-20 21:20:59 UTC  

SODOMIZE

2017-02-20 21:21:00 UTC  

THE

2017-02-20 21:21:02 UTC  

WEAK

2017-02-20 21:21:03 UTC  

AND

2017-02-20 21:21:04 UTC  

HAIL THE

2017-02-20 21:21:05 UTC  

GOAT

2017-02-20 21:23:50 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism the thing I take from quantum physics is that it reaches down into representations and exposes them as such; revealing the world as an incomprehensible dark void of impulses.

If the particle, matter, whatever, doesn't appear in the form we perceive it until it's "observed" but this is the stuff we are made of, than that certainly implies the existence of something outside of that frame which is responsible. More specifically that there is something non-human doing the observation.

A quantum physicist friend of mine said that the observer effect was a misnomer and proffered "perturbation" instead. His view was such that the mere interaction of waveforms was enough to collapse them.

It didn't hit me until now however that Schopenhauer had said about how we are only conscious of something when it resists our will. So if these representations happen regardless of other humans around, the implication is that there is some discrete, multitudinous *will* at this level which, when bumping shoulders, gives rise to this very basic grade of existence we try to make sense out of using physics.

Got off track a bit. There is no god.

2017-02-20 21:25:00 UTC  

So anyway that perturbation is what Schopenhauer was describing from a different lense

2017-02-20 21:25:05 UTC  

It's cool shit

2017-02-20 21:25:27 UTC  

I'm incapable of taking that deeper so don't probe me bb

2017-02-20 21:27:37 UTC  

I don't even know if this would be anything but junk science, to be honest. I don't know that there is something wrong with it, I don't suspect to the point that I would dismiss it but, there are trends in the scientific field that are way too humanist for their own good. Maybe observation does nothing and we just like to think it does?

2017-02-20 21:28:28 UTC  

The conclusion wouldn't be that you can sprout tentacles out of your arm

2017-02-20 21:29:31 UTC  

We definitely experience the effect

2017-02-20 21:29:39 UTC  

so it shouldn't be discarded

2017-02-20 21:30:08 UTC  

That does not mean that a phenomenon is dependent on observation. But I understand the point.

2017-02-20 21:32:08 UTC  

it just means that phenomena are the result of shoulders bumping, more or less. Without such "perturbations" the world is indeterminate potential I guess. That doesn't really matter though.

2017-02-20 21:32:16 UTC  

Since we can't know the answer

2017-02-20 21:32:48 UTC  

No. At least, not off of the models we have now. All of the uncertainty gives egg heads something to do.

2017-02-20 21:33:43 UTC  

We'll never get there

2017-02-20 21:34:32 UTC  

But once we stop trying, we are just going to atrophy. That is the tragedy of the workaholic. I guess we could breed temperaments that make do with uncertainty without stagnance and atrophy.

2017-02-20 21:34:51 UTC  

We could devote energy into how to live instead

2017-02-20 21:34:55 UTC  

ethics

2017-02-20 21:35:17 UTC  

Not to mention the other pillars.

2017-02-20 21:36:32 UTC  

Imagine all of the theorizing that we get today going into high art. Music, painting, sculpting: all of these ideas of how the more subtle world would look to our material eyes and sound to our ears. It would at least be more interesting to me.

2017-02-20 21:37:04 UTC  

It would hit an epistemological crisis all the same

2017-02-20 21:37:22 UTC  

Don't the artsy types thrive in crisis? They love it.

2017-02-20 21:37:36 UTC  

"well fuck, how do you write a good tune."

2017-02-20 21:38:23 UTC  

All of the musicians disagreeing though working at their very best could make an all new explosion of genres and enhance already existing ones. See, they would be creating something. That would fulfill them even with all of their doubts.

2017-02-20 21:40:07 UTC  

yeah but that's not usually the result of theorizing

2017-02-20 21:41:48 UTC  

Theorizing is deconstructive

2017-02-20 21:41:55 UTC  

rationality that is