Message from @Jake Saga

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2017-03-10 16:24:16 UTC  

The herd is more miserable by the year as they ingest their programming, but they can't conceive of rejecting it.

2017-03-10 16:24:54 UTC  

My brother is a good example: has lots of $, but is not happy. I am much less materially wealthy, but he seems to be made angry by my stoicism. Hmmm.

2017-03-10 16:25:00 UTC  

IDEALIST THINKS WE SHOULD CRUSH THE SYSTEM AND ELEVATE THE PROLETARIAT, A REALIST KNOWS THAT EVEN WHEN SYSTEM IS CRUSHED, THE PROLES CANNOT BE ELEVATED TO APPRECIATE MORE THAN BREAD AND CIRCUSES

2017-03-10 16:26:55 UTC  

That's a criticism of Marxism I guess

2017-03-10 16:27:00 UTC  

What's the point

2017-03-10 16:28:19 UTC  

is there a question: how much value is there in trying to create a new elite who care enough to guide the masses in a better direction.

2017-03-10 16:29:05 UTC  

Displace the current system and elites who run it for their fun and amusement with one that actually cares to foster the well-being and future of a particular people?

2017-03-10 16:29:33 UTC  

The fascists, obviously, thought they were doing that, and were to some extent in my book.

2017-03-10 16:29:54 UTC  

What direction

2017-03-10 16:29:56 UTC  

specifically

2017-03-10 16:29:59 UTC  

?

2017-03-10 16:30:18 UTC  

Natural born elites understand "what matters"

2017-03-10 16:30:24 UTC  

Thats what makes them eites

2017-03-10 16:30:52 UTC  

They have an understanding of the world that goes beyond the whims and sudden outbursts of popular anxiety

2017-03-10 16:31:14 UTC  

right

2017-03-10 16:31:25 UTC  

An elite that has such an udnerstanding would never for example give such an importance and priority to economy that it enjoys today

2017-03-10 16:31:53 UTC  

Fascists in many respects have had a healthy outlook

2017-03-10 16:32:24 UTC  

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ That's the problem, no? The Fascists and Nat'l Socialists did try to evaluate the problem and come up with a catalog of "what matters." One can argue with their conclusions, but they did not make the economy the most important thing.

2017-03-10 16:32:45 UTC  

what is the most important thing

2017-03-10 16:32:54 UTC  

I was arguing with a young alt-right friend who ran for office here in MN. He just couldn't understand why you shouldn't exploit the workers/masses.

2017-03-10 16:33:27 UTC  

He's not there yet. He has little empathy yet, is totally into Nietzche, but is really lacking something. A bit sociopathic. Unmoored.

2017-03-10 16:33:35 UTC  

I don't claim to know.

2017-03-10 16:34:01 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism has some good ideas. 😉

2017-03-10 16:34:24 UTC  

what matters

2017-03-10 16:34:27 UTC  

what is important

2017-03-10 16:37:32 UTC  

?

2017-03-10 16:37:51 UTC  

The elites understand that there is an order in nature that simply "is"

2017-03-10 16:37:57 UTC  

Not should be

2017-03-10 16:38:13 UTC  

The conviction that hierarchy of things must exist

2017-03-10 16:38:25 UTC  

That superior things have to be really superior, and inferior really inferior

2017-03-10 16:38:30 UTC  

And that it is their natural order

2017-03-10 16:38:52 UTC  

Aristocratic forms of government are established in obediance of this sacred principle

2017-03-10 16:39:27 UTC  

So what matters is hierarchy

2017-03-10 16:39:29 UTC  

?

2017-03-10 16:39:42 UTC  

Economy, as merely a form of exchange, therefore is absolutely subjected to *qualitative* relationis, which are personal

2017-03-10 16:40:25 UTC  

Economy as a quantitative form of exhange, therefore cannot supress and replace a qualitative organization, which is abstractly and theoretically, the state itself

2017-03-10 16:40:42 UTC  

Aristocratic state is nothing else but it's elite and of course, the religion

2017-03-10 16:41:00 UTC  

Aristocratic state is therefore this *quality* itself

2017-03-10 16:41:16 UTC  

What makes something superior to something else rather than, say, different

2017-03-10 16:41:17 UTC  

"we the people" is just a bushwacking drivel

2017-03-10 16:43:10 UTC  

Quite frankly spoken, the superior in terms of these castes, is essentially a personal quality