Message from @Jake Saga

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2017-03-10 16:20:13 UTC  

THERE SHOULD BE BASIC PROSPERITY FOR ALL

2017-03-10 16:20:27 UTC  

WHICH LAWS OF THE NATURE ARE SUPPOSED TO ESTABLISH SUCH PROSPERITY

2017-03-10 16:20:29 UTC  

That's amplified by calling everyone cuck and degenerate. People who would otherwise be motivated to Do Something about diversity are alienated.

2017-03-10 16:20:29 UTC  

I HAVE NO IDEA

2017-03-10 16:20:38 UTC  

good points on present tense = proles, and "shoulds"

2017-03-10 16:21:41 UTC  

@Jake Saga who were you from DMU again

2017-03-10 16:21:43 UTC  

I forgot

2017-03-10 16:21:50 UTC  

Kalvin told me

2017-03-10 16:21:52 UTC  

I think

2017-03-10 16:22:11 UTC  

PROLES VIEW OF THE WORLD IS THE VIEW OF A GARDEN OF ABUNDANCE

2017-03-10 16:22:29 UTC  

FRUITS ARE THERE BUT EVIL SYSTEM LIMITS OUR ACCESS TO THEM

2017-03-10 16:22:53 UTC  

The predominant cultural mythos is that the world is one of *limitless* abundance.

2017-03-10 16:23:02 UTC  

EVEN WHEN PROLES ARE RIGHT THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHY

2017-03-10 16:23:03 UTC  

it goes all the way to the top

2017-03-10 16:23:11 UTC  
2017-03-10 16:23:25 UTC  

oh

2017-03-10 16:23:32 UTC  

Nevermind then

2017-03-10 16:23:34 UTC  

THE SYSTEM IS IN FACT AWARE OF THE SHORTCOMINGS OF PROLE MINDSET, BUT CYNICALLY PLAYS THE CARDS

2017-03-10 16:23:40 UTC  

I don't know what that is

2017-03-10 16:23:51 UTC  

Yes, the system is a master at manipulating the herd.

2017-03-10 16:24:16 UTC  

The herd is more miserable by the year as they ingest their programming, but they can't conceive of rejecting it.

2017-03-10 16:24:54 UTC  

My brother is a good example: has lots of $, but is not happy. I am much less materially wealthy, but he seems to be made angry by my stoicism. Hmmm.

2017-03-10 16:25:00 UTC  

IDEALIST THINKS WE SHOULD CRUSH THE SYSTEM AND ELEVATE THE PROLETARIAT, A REALIST KNOWS THAT EVEN WHEN SYSTEM IS CRUSHED, THE PROLES CANNOT BE ELEVATED TO APPRECIATE MORE THAN BREAD AND CIRCUSES

2017-03-10 16:26:55 UTC  

That's a criticism of Marxism I guess

2017-03-10 16:27:00 UTC  

What's the point

2017-03-10 16:28:19 UTC  

is there a question: how much value is there in trying to create a new elite who care enough to guide the masses in a better direction.

2017-03-10 16:29:05 UTC  

Displace the current system and elites who run it for their fun and amusement with one that actually cares to foster the well-being and future of a particular people?

2017-03-10 16:29:33 UTC  

The fascists, obviously, thought they were doing that, and were to some extent in my book.

2017-03-10 16:29:54 UTC  

What direction

2017-03-10 16:29:56 UTC  

specifically

2017-03-10 16:29:59 UTC  

?

2017-03-10 16:30:18 UTC  

Natural born elites understand "what matters"

2017-03-10 16:30:24 UTC  

Thats what makes them eites

2017-03-10 16:30:52 UTC  

They have an understanding of the world that goes beyond the whims and sudden outbursts of popular anxiety

2017-03-10 16:31:14 UTC  

right

2017-03-10 16:31:25 UTC  

An elite that has such an udnerstanding would never for example give such an importance and priority to economy that it enjoys today

2017-03-10 16:31:53 UTC  

Fascists in many respects have had a healthy outlook

2017-03-10 16:32:24 UTC  

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ That's the problem, no? The Fascists and Nat'l Socialists did try to evaluate the problem and come up with a catalog of "what matters." One can argue with their conclusions, but they did not make the economy the most important thing.

2017-03-10 16:32:45 UTC  

what is the most important thing

2017-03-10 16:32:54 UTC  

I was arguing with a young alt-right friend who ran for office here in MN. He just couldn't understand why you shouldn't exploit the workers/masses.

2017-03-10 16:33:27 UTC  

He's not there yet. He has little empathy yet, is totally into Nietzche, but is really lacking something. A bit sociopathic. Unmoored.