Message from @fallot
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If strenght, endurance, intelligence, fortitude, are the causes of prosperity, to the Western civilization, it will not occur that these are important things for example
It will only be obsessed with resulting state of affairs
So character virtues are the most important thing
@Jake Saga devolved said you were into sociopathy
what's up with that
I'm making my own attempts to understand this phenomenon
and have currently settled on one main point: sociopathy is an iceberg
and it's not just about visible/invisible but labelling as well
@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ You could say so
many people labelled as narcissists or borderline personalities are sociopathic
the main issue being complete inability to form a visceral loving connection with anyone
so the elite recognizes that these virtues are the most important thing
Yes, the elites certainly value character
is maarat a sociopath
The civilian world should be structured like the military
But i could add also the spirit, though that would expand the conversation
this should be your face: 😐
he said he was tested as a sociopath
So what proceeds from the orientation of cultivation of virtue
a checklist is not enough
you can't be tested for sociopathy
There proceeds something, let's say brotherhood for a start, with a different set of values
or if you can, it's not via a self report checklist
Well I mean a leftist beheld to virtue ethics would even agree
Leftist order of things is deficient in many respects
I mean their predominant theory of egalitarianism is the driven by how to manage the interests of a brotherhood, or rather, a community
Enlisted = commoners, auxiliaries = officers, guardians = generals
Tabooed so to speak
Leftist idea of community is all inclusive
It's everybody
Good morning @fallot
So as soon as we are speaking of such an abstract mass of people, and even more hopelessly abstractly drawn principles of "human rights"
To establish values is impossible
Since we have mandatory inclusion of everybody, and mandatory transfer of resources to everybody
We don't really have any foundation to establish anybody's values, since they are preciselly NEEDED thanks to exclusivity and competition
I want to include in my group people that I think will benefit this very potential group, in relation to those who are outsiders
sorry I missed all your greets
I brought up leftism just to point out that the cultivation of virtue can be used towards a variety of ends