make things smaller, cleaner

yeah, the scale is the issue here, rather than "capitalism"

less polluted

so kill dalits until society is smaller

seems legit

you dont need to kill anyone to scale down society

okay maybe a few handfuls of people, every now and then

boundaries are important

http://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2013/04/architecturedensity01.jpg

you dont need to care who dies or does not die, once you decide who simply *doesn't come in*

that's why people invented borders

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=430425.0

SOME INTERESTING QUESTIONS:

"under capitalism everyone has a cost incentive to undercut and to deliver the cheapest, shoddiest product they can get away with?" -- THIS IS CONSUMERISM, NOT CAPITALISM, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CONSUMERS ARE TREATED AS EQUAL AND SUBSIDIZED BY GOVERNMENT. NOTE THIS ONLY BECAME A PROBLEM AFTER SOCIAL WELFARE SYSTEMS WERE INTRODUCED.

ALSO REMEMBER MY MENTION OF CASTE SYSTEMS

wait wait wait

I'm gonna need you to elaborate and substantiate some of that sentence

" food companies are incentivized to feed you dyed corn syrup instead of food, because it is vastly cheaper?" -- INTRODUCE DISCERNING CONSUMERS, AS ONE MIGHT DO THROUGH A CASTE SYSTEM. THE MARKET RESPONDS TO THE AUDIENCE.

where is the government subsidy leading to consumerism, and how in your view is consumerism substantially different than capitalism

MARKET DYNAMICS REFLECT CULTURE

"where is the government subsidy leading to consumerism, and how in your view is consumerism substantially different than capitalism" = CONSUMERISM IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE EMPOWER PEOPLE EQUALLY AS BUYERS, INSTEAD OF RELYING ON HIERARCHY BY WEALTH AS IS NATURAL IN CAPITALISM. THE SUBSIDIES ARE ALL OF THE NEW DEAL, GREAT SOCIETY AND WELFARE PROGRAMS. ALL BENNIES ARE THERE FOR EQUALITY AND CREATE A CONSUMER ECONOMY.

A BETTER WAY TO LIVE IS TO MAINTAIN CASTE

KEEP WEALTH IN THE HANDS OF THE COMPETENT

INSTEAD OF THE INCOMPETENT

WHAT YOU ARE SEEING WITH CONSUMERISM

IS SOCIALISM IN ACTION

how would you do this

would you limit who can buy and sell by caste?

as in my discussion earlier, that the market landscape would look different if only people over 120 IQ could use money?

so basically "capitalism works if we have better people doing it," which I fundamentally do accept, but how does that come about

"the market landscape would look different if only people over 120 IQ could use money?" -- YES

WE ARE LOOKING AT RESTORATION OF SOCIAL ORDER

THIS INVERTS CAPITALISM-AS-WE-KNOW IT

GIVE THE MONEY AND POWER TO THE BEST IN SEVERAL LAYERS

KEEP THE PROLES POOR

LIKE SERFS

look, I know you have your talking points

SO THAT THEIR PURCHASING IS NOT INFLUENTIAL

THEN HAVE LOCAL LORDS

I see

AND HIGHER CASTE PEOPLE WHO INFLUENCE BUYING