even that is a superficial lie

some people can convince themselves and deceive themselves to the point of *being unable to help themselves* while their subconscousness always has *the goal* in mind

they are still actively pursuing their goals, but they push their intentions into subconsciouss

then they make an entire worldview of that, which they serve to you

yeah

they can sell you things like cammaraderie, or even an entire lifestyle

der ewige jude is not even something the juden are consciously aware of

im not speaking of jews but all types of pros at lying

there are countless people who are even advocates of a certain cause, while being complete liars about it

but they sell you their cause because it benefits them

they will never say a truth if it even remotely makes them appear vulnerable

so everything they end up doing is one big massive self-serving lie

the only way they uncover themselves is perhaps their eagerness

their irresistible urge to be there, present, included, so thay can scan the environment for opportunities

thats how a Jew thinks, he always has to be there, present in the places where decisions are being made and resources handled

good point

you must deal with a lot of yids to be that lucid about it

I basically live in western jerusalem right now and even I do not have jews that clearly thought out

these are not my words, neither on liars nor on jews

this is 4000 years or more of human history, testimony, events, notable individuals, contemporaries etc

people were telling these things even in times when there was no roads and communication and when 90% of people were illiterate

needless to say, northern european high trust model is completely incompatible with such cunningness, since it requires straight-forwardness

there was nothing ever more hated and despised in *all* indo-european cultures, from Portugal to Indochina, than a lie

yes and chinese have been essentially the yellow jew since antiquity also

amoral hive creatures

China is hugely diverse I think

One thing that also crosses my mind, is how ancient philosophers never approached the ideals of truth and lie from point of utility

Simply, truth was valued in itself

And lie was despised in itself, as something against nature

There never existed the concept of "lying in order to acquire a benefit" like in Islam

Nobody ever said "truth is good because it serves society"

but simply "lie is ignoble and repulsive" period

In Norse Eddas, in Greek Philosophers, in Buddhist scholars, in Babylonian epics, everywhere you see one and the same attitude "Lie is gay"

After all, that is the main precondition of all Philosophy

odysseus lied a lot

yes of course, I was referring to ideals

LYING: IS IT GOOD, OR IS IT BAD?

PER ODYSSEUS

WE SEE THAT IT IS GOOD WHEN IT ADVANCES GOOD RESULTS,

BUT BAD WHEN IT ADVANCES BAD RESULTS

HMM