Message from @Death Strike's Bat

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2017-04-22 23:00:15 UTC  

there are some basics to Islam

2017-04-22 23:00:18 UTC  

Fallot

2017-04-22 23:00:22 UTC  

Are you a capitalist?

2017-04-22 23:00:23 UTC  

Just like alevis

2017-04-22 23:00:41 UTC  

Well I mean alawites

2017-04-22 23:00:47 UTC  

Depends on what that means @Hagel, I don't support evils that are linked to the word capitalism

2017-04-22 23:00:53 UTC  

Bektashi order was basically Mithraic order for Ottoman Muslims, and it possese striking similarities

2017-04-22 23:00:57 UTC  

Alawites only decided to become sort of outwardly Muslims in the 30s

2017-04-22 23:00:58 UTC  

but I'm for the basic human actions of buy and sell

2017-04-22 23:01:04 UTC  

1930s

2017-04-22 23:01:19 UTC  

1. It was dominated by Janissaries, a warrior class, who didn't marry or have families

2017-04-22 23:01:24 UTC  

2. It was initiatic

2017-04-22 23:01:29 UTC  

Economics must be secondary to other goals

2017-04-22 23:01:42 UTC  

if necessary, I would be prepared to do stuff that is called "socialist"

2017-04-22 23:01:44 UTC  

Jannisaries had families

2017-04-22 23:01:44 UTC  

3. It was focused towards spiritual progression of warrior type, that is, detached

2017-04-22 23:01:49 UTC  

It depends.

2017-04-22 23:02:10 UTC  

@Death Strike's Bat When they served armed forces, mostly not, they were young boys with no contact with theri real families or backgrounds

2017-04-22 23:02:12 UTC  

Do you support fascist economics?

2017-04-22 23:02:14 UTC  

full gay mystical nazi

2017-04-22 23:02:15 UTC  

And eventually became herisitery state pensions for urban homos

2017-04-22 23:02:20 UTC  

@Hagel yes and no

2017-04-22 23:02:23 UTC  

They weren't young.

2017-04-22 23:02:27 UTC  

Planning capitalism and socialism based on each case

2017-04-22 23:02:27 UTC  

fascist economics tend to be pragmatic

2017-04-22 23:02:28 UTC  

Most were teenagers.

2017-04-22 23:02:31 UTC  

they married later sure, but in their service basically they lived the "mannerbund" life

2017-04-22 23:02:32 UTC  

yeah, like that

2017-04-22 23:02:40 UTC  

And most went back.

2017-04-22 23:02:41 UTC  

if by fascist economics there is a particular rigid system meant

2017-04-22 23:02:42 UTC  

then no

2017-04-22 23:02:48 UTC  

That is what I meant by it

2017-04-22 23:02:49 UTC  

To their home area

2017-04-22 23:02:56 UTC  

I mean I'm not against it?

2017-04-22 23:02:57 UTC  

btw, distinguish early janissaries, basically kidnapped non-muslim boys, and the later order

2017-04-22 23:03:11 UTC  

Early jannisserirs is not kidnapping

2017-04-22 23:03:20 UTC  

All must serve the ingroup, the nation, the whatever

2017-04-22 23:03:26 UTC  

More forced conscription

2017-04-22 23:03:34 UTC  

And technically a slave of the sultan

2017-04-22 23:03:36 UTC  

no, they were kidnapped from non-muslim families

2017-04-22 23:03:36 UTC  

what is called capitalism nowadays is mostly just usury out of control