Message from @fallot

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2017-04-22 23:01:49 UTC  

It depends.

2017-04-22 23:02:10 UTC  

@Death Strike's Bat When they served armed forces, mostly not, they were young boys with no contact with theri real families or backgrounds

2017-04-22 23:02:12 UTC  

Do you support fascist economics?

2017-04-22 23:02:14 UTC  

full gay mystical nazi

2017-04-22 23:02:15 UTC  

And eventually became herisitery state pensions for urban homos

2017-04-22 23:02:20 UTC  

@Hagel yes and no

2017-04-22 23:02:23 UTC  

They weren't young.

2017-04-22 23:02:27 UTC  

Planning capitalism and socialism based on each case

2017-04-22 23:02:27 UTC  

fascist economics tend to be pragmatic

2017-04-22 23:02:28 UTC  

Most were teenagers.

2017-04-22 23:02:31 UTC  

they married later sure, but in their service basically they lived the "mannerbund" life

2017-04-22 23:02:32 UTC  

yeah, like that

2017-04-22 23:02:40 UTC  

And most went back.

2017-04-22 23:02:41 UTC  

if by fascist economics there is a particular rigid system meant

2017-04-22 23:02:42 UTC  

then no

2017-04-22 23:02:48 UTC  

That is what I meant by it

2017-04-22 23:02:49 UTC  

To their home area

2017-04-22 23:02:56 UTC  

I mean I'm not against it?

2017-04-22 23:02:57 UTC  

btw, distinguish early janissaries, basically kidnapped non-muslim boys, and the later order

2017-04-22 23:03:11 UTC  

Early jannisserirs is not kidnapping

2017-04-22 23:03:20 UTC  

All must serve the ingroup, the nation, the whatever

2017-04-22 23:03:26 UTC  

More forced conscription

2017-04-22 23:03:34 UTC  

And technically a slave of the sultan

2017-04-22 23:03:36 UTC  

no, they were kidnapped from non-muslim families

2017-04-22 23:03:36 UTC  

what is called capitalism nowadays is mostly just usury out of control

2017-04-22 23:03:40 UTC  

As you went back.

2017-04-22 23:03:40 UTC  

creating value out of nothing

2017-04-22 23:03:47 UTC  

And were wealthier for it.

2017-04-22 23:03:59 UTC  

yeah, they often did go back

2017-04-22 23:04:06 UTC  

The problem was the jannisseries sucked as a fighting force.

2017-04-22 23:04:22 UTC  

eventually they did

2017-04-22 23:04:23 UTC  

They were better as local administratators

2017-04-22 23:04:41 UTC  

However, my initial point is, Islam is nothing but a problem today, and is an umbrella worldview for those who want to conquer this material world and subject it to their whims and evade all punishmet

2017-04-22 23:04:44 UTC  

As they didn't perform well as ncos or crack troops.

2017-04-22 23:05:03 UTC  

Well they were okay for a bit as heavy infantry

2017-04-22 23:05:16 UTC  

Until the line infantry showed up in the 1600s

2017-04-22 23:05:18 UTC  

we haven't even reached the point of peak Muslim influence, which will begin when White undermen start converting to it to find a "solution"

2017-04-22 23:05:19 UTC  

When they were fucked.

2017-04-22 23:05:20 UTC  

this "problem" will survive where flighty gay mystical nazi ideas fail

2017-04-22 23:05:24 UTC  

Just like during Roman Empire

2017-04-22 23:05:54 UTC  

Roman religion is one of imperial cults and personal gods.