Message from @diversity_is_racism

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2017-05-04 23:31:20 UTC  

in the 1930s

2017-05-04 23:31:22 UTC  

not 50k, some smaller number

2017-05-04 23:31:23 UTC  

still

2017-05-04 23:31:27 UTC  

then they just predicted teh other sides plan would lose

2017-05-04 23:32:16 UTC  

Well I do agree that Japanese would reach a stalemate with the Chinese even without USA

2017-05-04 23:32:34 UTC  

But then again, Japan needed only to decisivelly defeat USA navy which it could do but failed

2017-05-04 23:32:57 UTC  

That's the whole point, that's why they struck Dutch and British over there and menanced the seas

2017-05-04 23:33:11 UTC  

They knew they could not stand against millions and millions on land

2017-05-04 23:37:29 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd CONSIDER EDWARDIAN ENGLAND INSTEAD

2017-05-04 23:37:46 UTC  

MY MODELS INCLUDE PRE-ROMAN GERMANIC SOCIETIES AND MIDDLE AGES WESTERN EUROPE

2017-05-04 23:38:25 UTC  

pre-roman germanic and celtic societies were cool

2017-05-04 23:38:44 UTC  

Some were fiercely isolationist

2017-05-04 23:39:35 UTC  

funny how films always portray them as some sort of egalitarian pagan tree hugging village societies

2017-05-04 23:40:01 UTC  

when in reality they were basically kingdoms, patriarchal, hard working

2017-05-04 23:41:19 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE ❤

2017-05-04 23:42:09 UTC  

HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE HAD ITS BENEFITS

2017-05-04 23:42:12 UTC  

EMPIRE IS DIFFICULT

2017-05-04 23:42:18 UTC  

BUT I AGREE ON THEIR ISOLATIONISM

2017-05-04 23:42:26 UTC  

THE WAY MONARCHIES MAKE ALLIANCES IS THROUGH MARRIAGES

2017-05-04 23:42:38 UTC  

THEY WERE FAR FROM EGALITARIAN, THESE SOCIETIES

2017-05-04 23:42:45 UTC  

THEY WERE MUCH MORE REALISTIC THAN THAT

2017-05-04 23:42:54 UTC  

INCLUDING A REFUSAL TO LEAVE BEHIND DOCUMENTS

2017-05-04 23:47:02 UTC  

It's remarkable

2017-05-04 23:47:07 UTC  

Considering their small size

2017-05-04 23:47:19 UTC  

That they were persistently able to raise large armies

2017-05-04 23:48:07 UTC  

Reminds me of my country during glorious ages when we had 200.000 populaton total, and raised 40.000 men against Austria

2017-05-04 23:48:38 UTC  

Caesar sodomized Gauls and Germans though, but then again, Caesar was crazy

2017-05-04 23:49:44 UTC  

Well every Freeman was a warrior they basically mobilized the entire adult male population for war

2017-05-04 23:50:38 UTC  

in pop culture everything is simplified

2017-05-04 23:50:55 UTC  

but these men were serious warriors and their armies were not a bunch of know-nothings

2017-05-04 23:51:11 UTC  

sure, they lacked drill, structure and superior logistics that romans knew

2017-05-04 23:51:46 UTC  

and i also dare to say, they lacked the crazy boldness and adventurous unscrupulous conquering unsatiable spirit of the Romans

2017-05-04 23:52:17 UTC  

But the image of bare chested berserking axeman that films portraz

2017-05-04 23:52:27 UTC  

even if it did exist, it existed purely for tactical reasons

2017-05-04 23:52:42 UTC  

these men approached combat and strategy seriously, these gauls and germans

2017-05-04 23:55:52 UTC  

There was definetly a cultural component in the way that they thought, the berserk style showed defiance of death gave prestige and status as a fearless soldier

2017-05-04 23:56:52 UTC  

those styles of battle were incorporated in their style of combat they knew that they couldnt beat the romans on the open field and prefered to ambush them in their territory example teuteburger wald

2017-05-04 23:57:38 UTC  

Roman sense of unshakeable superiority was remarkable

2017-05-04 23:58:12 UTC  

I mean they persistently defeated Germans, first Marius, then Caesar then Germanicus

2017-05-04 23:58:44 UTC  

They won some battles but they were never able to conquer them

2017-05-04 23:59:09 UTC  

Yes but they enslaved many hundred thousands which was basically the same