Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-05-04 23:29:57 UTC  

and jus was an empire on paper

2017-05-04 23:30:04 UTC  

It was always technically an oligarchy

2017-05-04 23:30:18 UTC  

but for the 19th century it was an actual oligarchy

2017-05-04 23:30:18 UTC  

It drifted towards militarism which was still OK

2017-05-04 23:30:27 UTC  

the militarism killed the empire

2017-05-04 23:30:29 UTC  

Japanese were ruled by cold steel reason

2017-05-04 23:30:35 UTC  

nukes killed the empire

2017-05-04 23:30:42 UTC  

nobody could predict that

2017-05-04 23:30:43 UTC  

no they were already losing

2017-05-04 23:30:52 UTC  

they predicted they would lose

2017-05-04 23:31:01 UTC  

read the actual documents

2017-05-04 23:31:02 UTC  

Yes but USA lost 50k people invadinga small coral island

2017-05-04 23:31:09 UTC  

no way mainland japan was to be invaded

2017-05-04 23:31:12 UTC  

the japanese army and navy both predicted they would lose regardless of the USA

2017-05-04 23:31:18 UTC  

hmmm

2017-05-04 23:31:20 UTC  

in the 1930s

2017-05-04 23:31:22 UTC  

not 50k, some smaller number

2017-05-04 23:31:23 UTC  

still

2017-05-04 23:31:27 UTC  

then they just predicted teh other sides plan would lose

2017-05-04 23:32:16 UTC  

Well I do agree that Japanese would reach a stalemate with the Chinese even without USA

2017-05-04 23:32:34 UTC  

But then again, Japan needed only to decisivelly defeat USA navy which it could do but failed

2017-05-04 23:32:57 UTC  

That's the whole point, that's why they struck Dutch and British over there and menanced the seas

2017-05-04 23:33:11 UTC  

They knew they could not stand against millions and millions on land

2017-05-04 23:37:29 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd CONSIDER EDWARDIAN ENGLAND INSTEAD

2017-05-04 23:37:46 UTC  

MY MODELS INCLUDE PRE-ROMAN GERMANIC SOCIETIES AND MIDDLE AGES WESTERN EUROPE

2017-05-04 23:38:25 UTC  

pre-roman germanic and celtic societies were cool

2017-05-04 23:38:44 UTC  

Some were fiercely isolationist

2017-05-04 23:39:35 UTC  

funny how films always portray them as some sort of egalitarian pagan tree hugging village societies

2017-05-04 23:40:01 UTC  

when in reality they were basically kingdoms, patriarchal, hard working

2017-05-04 23:41:19 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE ❤

2017-05-04 23:42:09 UTC  

HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE HAD ITS BENEFITS

2017-05-04 23:42:12 UTC  

EMPIRE IS DIFFICULT

2017-05-04 23:42:18 UTC  

BUT I AGREE ON THEIR ISOLATIONISM

2017-05-04 23:42:26 UTC  

THE WAY MONARCHIES MAKE ALLIANCES IS THROUGH MARRIAGES

2017-05-04 23:42:38 UTC  

THEY WERE FAR FROM EGALITARIAN, THESE SOCIETIES

2017-05-04 23:42:45 UTC  

THEY WERE MUCH MORE REALISTIC THAN THAT

2017-05-04 23:42:54 UTC  

INCLUDING A REFUSAL TO LEAVE BEHIND DOCUMENTS

2017-05-04 23:47:02 UTC  

It's remarkable

2017-05-04 23:47:07 UTC  

Considering their small size

2017-05-04 23:47:19 UTC  

That they were persistently able to raise large armies

2017-05-04 23:48:07 UTC  

Reminds me of my country during glorious ages when we had 200.000 populaton total, and raised 40.000 men against Austria