Message from @Deleted User 57835c2c

Discord ID: 329671787145199616


2017-06-28 17:14:08 UTC  

Meditation comes to mind

2017-06-28 17:14:23 UTC  

Impossible to pursue inside any household with other people

2017-06-28 17:14:30 UTC  

why?

2017-06-28 17:14:49 UTC  

In fact, the existence of monkish institutions, serves so monks could encourage each other as well

2017-06-28 17:15:07 UTC  

why can you not meditate in a household exactly?

2017-06-28 17:15:15 UTC  

Get some guidance in meditative techniques, try it and you will see

2017-06-28 17:15:40 UTC  

no, be specific. is it noise? being too close to your worldly cares?

2017-06-28 17:15:55 UTC  

the latter is a good point, among others

2017-06-28 17:16:15 UTC  

presence of other beings in one way or another makes optimal conditions more difficult to achieve

2017-06-28 17:16:17 UTC  

in terms of space

2017-06-28 17:16:21 UTC  

silence

2017-06-28 17:16:25 UTC  

schedules

2017-06-28 17:16:35 UTC  

preparation of meals

2017-06-28 17:16:37 UTC  

okay, then a few items for your consideration

2017-06-28 17:16:47 UTC  

so it's basically noise + proximity + chores so far

2017-06-28 17:17:05 UTC  

the very organization of daily life in accordance with certain standards

2017-06-28 17:17:20 UTC  

noise: you are the man of the house, make people behave. If they do not behave, hit them.

2017-06-28 17:17:29 UTC  

that is why God gave you great physical power

2017-06-28 17:17:43 UTC  

that very act of hitting somebody would be exactly the type of distraction you want to avoid

2017-06-28 17:17:46 UTC  

proximity: you could leave your household and go somewhere else to meditate, even set aside an entire unscheduled day for it

2017-06-28 17:17:59 UTC  

chores: see above

2017-06-28 17:18:04 UTC  

now this last part is important for you to consider

2017-06-28 17:18:04 UTC  

it perfecty fits the description of "sub-optimal"

2017-06-28 17:18:15 UTC  

you don't want to do that, or have to do that

2017-06-28 17:18:30 UTC  

it's the introduction of passions and emotions where you least want them

2017-06-28 17:18:32 UTC  

well obviously, but you do what you need to in order to get results, that is how life works

2017-06-28 17:18:57 UTC  

an old brahmin is supposed to deed his possessions over to his oldest son, then become a wandering holy hermit and go live in the woods

2017-06-28 17:19:16 UTC  

the fact that family and max ascetic spiritual life are not compatible is worked into the system

2017-06-28 17:19:55 UTC  

once the man's grandchildren are born, he alone or he and his wife if he wants can go be wandering monk hermits in the woods until they drop dead mid prayer or meditation or whatever

2017-06-28 17:20:13 UTC  

there are strict guidelines on how much they may own, what they may do, how much food they can eat and from where they can procure it

2017-06-28 17:20:19 UTC  

so basically they did your thing already

2017-06-28 17:20:20 UTC  

just saying

2017-06-28 17:20:25 UTC  

I think that simply separating two domains works just fine

2017-06-28 17:20:53 UTC  

Which leads us back to the question of what kind of marriage is the most ideal or suitable for those who wish to do so, or consider doing so their obligations

2017-06-28 17:21:11 UTC  

is asceticism an ideal for every man?

2017-06-28 17:21:12 UTC  

are people who cannot measure up to their obligations even worthy of trying to be an ascetic like that?

2017-06-28 17:21:12 UTC  

Again, I emphasized Rome, where getting married was a paramount duty for an Aristocrat

2017-06-28 17:21:16 UTC  

if they were capable of it, lets assume

2017-06-28 17:21:36 UTC  

can't run the world on ascetics

2017-06-28 17:21:57 UTC  

yes, sadly you need go getters like me and fallot

2017-06-28 17:22:03 UTC  

I'm not a go-getter