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proximity: you could leave your household and go somewhere else to meditate, even set aside an entire unscheduled day for it
chores: see above
now this last part is important for you to consider
it perfecty fits the description of "sub-optimal"
you don't want to do that, or have to do that
it's the introduction of passions and emotions where you least want them
well obviously, but you do what you need to in order to get results, that is how life works
an old brahmin is supposed to deed his possessions over to his oldest son, then become a wandering holy hermit and go live in the woods
the fact that family and max ascetic spiritual life are not compatible is worked into the system
once the man's grandchildren are born, he alone or he and his wife if he wants can go be wandering monk hermits in the woods until they drop dead mid prayer or meditation or whatever
there are strict guidelines on how much they may own, what they may do, how much food they can eat and from where they can procure it
so basically they did your thing already
just saying
I think that simply separating two domains works just fine
Which leads us back to the question of what kind of marriage is the most ideal or suitable for those who wish to do so, or consider doing so their obligations
is asceticism an ideal for every man?
are people who cannot measure up to their obligations even worthy of trying to be an ascetic like that?
Again, I emphasized Rome, where getting married was a paramount duty for an Aristocrat
if they were capable of it, lets assume
can't run the world on ascetics
I'm not a go-getter
you're a surgeon
Well, asceticism is by definiton an exceptional effort
asceticism could be an abstraction
yeah but that's to pay the bills
It's like saying "not everyone can be a long distance runner"
That is to be understood
not everyone SHOULD be a long distance runner
that is what is under consideration
not what you said
I disagree
Or actually
It could have a point
8]
so I've addressed practical matters re: asceticism vs family life incompatibility, so now I want to know - what is the point/reason/goal of asceticism?
If you added "should TRY"
TES that is egalitarianism
Nope
some are born to be human farm animals and it would be a crime to try to elevate them past it
should everyone try to be an ascetic then?