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and venezuela
they all take the initial free hand out
of land from the richer peasants / estates
but most of them don't even want to see the land lord shot
they just want to humiliate him
and take his extra stuff
the most ironic is that the USSR and China did gave lands to the people
they almost all respondwith violence to attempts totake hteir stuff
yeah but in both cases the peasants responded with violence towards what htey perceived to be the state taking their land
and they could manage them properly for example in the NEP and in the China from 1949-1953-54
and they were right
yes
then the governement started to involve and everything went to hell
well the government didn't want toredistribute land
they wanted to seize the land
because they were afraid of a new burgueoise class
to use the exports
to pay for industrialization
also that
and the peasants new that
they're not stupid
basically they starved the peasants to feed the cities.
yes
well mao was more just pure idiocy
no they are more conected with their instinct or something like that
stalin was exporting grain from a starving country
no it is that they see how agriculture works
firsthand
and realize what is up
i think it was to pay technology from USA?
the USSR was exporting grain
to fund industrialization
yh, but remember that they had signed contracts with the ford i think
the thing was WW1 and the Russian Civil War had destroyed peasant agriculture in RUssia proper
they bought a ton of stuff
ironically from the capitalists countries
when tsarist russia was slowly industrializing in it's own inefficient way
as the largest agricultural exporter in europe
but everything they exported was a commodity
and not specialized crops