Message from @Death Strike's Bat
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yeah but in both cases the peasants responded with violence towards what htey perceived to be the state taking their land
and they could manage them properly for example in the NEP and in the China from 1949-1953-54
and they were right
yes
then the governement started to involve and everything went to hell
well the government didn't want toredistribute land
they wanted to seize the land
because they were afraid of a new burgueoise class
to use the exports
to pay for industrialization
also that
and the peasants new that
as even though they're uneducated, lower iq people
they're not stupid
basically they starved the peasants to feed the cities.
yes
well mao was more just pure idiocy
no they are more conected with their instinct or something like that
stalin was exporting grain from a starving country
no it is that they see how agriculture works
and realize what is up
i think it was to pay technology from USA?
the USSR was exporting grain
to fund industrialization
yh, but remember that they had signed contracts with the ford i think
the thing was WW1 and the Russian Civil War had destroyed peasant agriculture in RUssia proper
they bought a ton of stuff
ironically from the capitalists countries
when tsarist russia was slowly industrializing in it's own inefficient way
as the largest agricultural exporter in europe
but everything they exported was a commodity
and not specialized crops
so no almonds and shit
or tomaotes. russia is a potato stan
china finally industrialized the right way in the deng xiaoping era
SLOWLY
yup
Deng really suffered all the evils of communism
china is fucked now as 1. it can't raise the standard of living much more
too much people