to use the exports

to pay for industrialization

also that

and the peasants new that

as even though they're uneducated, lower iq people

they're not stupid

basically they starved the peasants to feed the cities.

yes

well mao was more just pure idiocy

no they are more conected with their instinct or something like that

stalin was exporting grain from a starving country

no it is that they see how agriculture works

firsthand

and realize what is up

i think it was to pay technology from USA?

the USSR was exporting grain

to fund industrialization

yh, but remember that they had signed contracts with the ford i think

the thing was WW1 and the Russian Civil War had destroyed peasant agriculture in RUssia proper

they bought a ton of stuff

ironically from the capitalists countries

when tsarist russia was slowly industrializing in it's own inefficient way

as the largest agricultural exporter in europe

but everything they exported was a commodity

and not specialized crops

so no almonds and shit

or tomaotes. russia is a potato stan

china finally industrialized the right way in the deng xiaoping era

SLOWLY

yup

Deng really suffered all the evils of communism

china is fucked now as 1. it can't raise the standard of living much more

too much people

their labor already costs too much for totally mindless industries

and they have a rust belt

as it's easier to build a new steel plant than upgrade an old one

which is what happened in the USA and europe. USA rules for specialty steels

the japanese built new plants making better steel

chinese steel sucks

indian steel is minutely better

ussr made steel with 1930s tech