Message from @Death Strike's Bat

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2017-09-03 22:03:57 UTC  

That's how you end up with Aethelred the Unready or Nicholas II or Louis XVI or Commodus.

2017-09-03 22:04:04 UTC  

Or Caligula

2017-09-03 22:04:34 UTC  

Or Dominitian who just pissed people off.

2017-09-03 22:05:02 UTC  

Or Richard and John

2017-09-03 22:05:22 UTC  

Or William II, Henry I,

2017-09-03 22:05:30 UTC  

Totally incompetent pieces of shit.

2017-09-03 22:05:55 UTC  

what about Henry VIII?

2017-09-03 22:06:30 UTC  

Henry VIII was very competent as was Elizabeth and James I. Charles I was a fucking idiot

2017-09-03 22:06:45 UTC  

The problem was Henry VIII had no heir.

2017-09-03 22:08:07 UTC  

If he could hand his absolute monarchy to his #2 and have him marry his daughter, that would be a lot better but he couldn't

2017-09-03 22:08:18 UTC  

What was your issue with Henry I?

2017-09-03 22:08:39 UTC  

Henry I had like 30 kids and none of them a real heir

2017-09-03 22:09:00 UTC  

Which caused a massive civil war.

2017-09-03 22:09:24 UTC  

As he attempted to make his daughter queen and stephen said nuh uh

2017-09-03 22:09:34 UTC  

So you had actual anarchy.

2017-09-03 22:09:39 UTC  

wow, amazing how something like that can happen

2017-09-03 22:10:12 UTC  

I didn't much like Elizabeth I, but I'd need to read more about her again perhaps

2017-09-03 22:10:13 UTC  

It's all held together by one guy.

2017-09-03 22:11:05 UTC  

James I can afford to be a flaming homo who believes in witches but the moment he hands it over to his son who will actually mismanage it to hell and cause a massive civil war, then yeah you fucked up.

2017-09-03 22:11:47 UTC  

I mean, 40 some year reign, no heir?

2017-09-03 22:12:16 UTC  

You don't have an adult kid to carry out your power.

2017-09-03 22:12:20 UTC  

Pretty easy.

2017-09-03 22:12:36 UTC  

couldn't find some prince willing to knock her up?

2017-09-03 22:12:54 UTC  

He tried but she didn't have any power on the ground.

2017-09-03 22:13:02 UTC  

And that is really obvious

2017-09-03 22:13:16 UTC  

If you marry her off to the third biggest goon.

2017-09-03 22:13:30 UTC  

And you're #1, your nephew is #2 etx

2017-09-03 22:14:14 UTC  

Yeah they totally swore that the holy Roman empress would.be queen to him but half of them of course reneged.

2017-09-03 22:14:50 UTC  

And capturing Stephen on the ground didn't do jack shit as they couldn't kill him as his dudes still controlled half the country.

2017-09-03 22:15:45 UTC  

And he had a major general of there's who would.be killed in return and you can't lose a third of your guys as you killed a guy that would cause them to kill your guy and his men won't fight for you anymore

2017-09-03 22:16:09 UTC  

That's what Robb stark did on game of thrones and what the mad king did before then.

2017-09-03 22:17:08 UTC  

That's why killing the king often won feudal battles as if you said you would fight for a dude as he is your dude and he dies, you have no reason to fight anymore.

2017-09-03 22:17:52 UTC  

See Hastings when everyone but Harolds personal guard ran away after he got anarrow in the eye (he still wasn't dead)

2017-09-03 22:18:11 UTC  

Your skull will often stop the bullet or arrow like Moshe Dayan.

2017-09-03 22:23:01 UTC  

@charles watson it's like why you can't conquer a place easily if you can't insert yourlsef at the top of what's already there

2017-09-03 22:23:11 UTC  

like the normans, british, and conquistadors did

2017-09-03 22:53:38 UTC  

who says one has to insert themselves on top of the thing? It is responsible for providing itself a sensible order for itself.

2017-09-03 23:00:29 UTC  

inserting a king on top of democracy is like inserting a brick on top of a sand castle. That which is fundemental to democracy has to be seen for what it is first, then those things need to be purged before the more functional order (monarchy) can be established. There are still pillars on which can hold the brick, but they are still buried in sand.

2017-09-03 23:07:29 UTC  

Democracy + monarchy isn't working very well for the brits

2017-09-03 23:18:06 UTC  

THE POINT OF MONARCHY IS TO HAVE A SINGLE SOURCE OF POWER