Message from @charles watson

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2017-09-03 22:01:46 UTC  

Appointing your number 2 seems to work best.

2017-09-03 22:02:01 UTC  

well there was definetly some disorder that lead to becoming more democratic, but it still would have been preferable to maintain the older order

2017-09-03 22:02:06 UTC  

But your heir has to actually be your number 2 and effective at it.

2017-09-03 22:02:46 UTC  

With monarchy, if you do not have an adult male heir already doing part of your job, then you have failed.

2017-09-03 22:02:53 UTC  

And your kid will suck almost always.

2017-09-03 22:03:57 UTC  

That's how you end up with Aethelred the Unready or Nicholas II or Louis XVI or Commodus.

2017-09-03 22:04:04 UTC  

Or Caligula

2017-09-03 22:04:34 UTC  

Or Dominitian who just pissed people off.

2017-09-03 22:05:02 UTC  

Or Richard and John

2017-09-03 22:05:22 UTC  

Or William II, Henry I,

2017-09-03 22:05:30 UTC  

Totally incompetent pieces of shit.

2017-09-03 22:05:55 UTC  

what about Henry VIII?

2017-09-03 22:06:30 UTC  

Henry VIII was very competent as was Elizabeth and James I. Charles I was a fucking idiot

2017-09-03 22:06:45 UTC  

The problem was Henry VIII had no heir.

2017-09-03 22:08:07 UTC  

If he could hand his absolute monarchy to his #2 and have him marry his daughter, that would be a lot better but he couldn't

2017-09-03 22:08:18 UTC  

What was your issue with Henry I?

2017-09-03 22:08:39 UTC  

Henry I had like 30 kids and none of them a real heir

2017-09-03 22:09:00 UTC  

Which caused a massive civil war.

2017-09-03 22:09:24 UTC  

As he attempted to make his daughter queen and stephen said nuh uh

2017-09-03 22:09:34 UTC  

So you had actual anarchy.

2017-09-03 22:09:39 UTC  

wow, amazing how something like that can happen

2017-09-03 22:10:12 UTC  

I didn't much like Elizabeth I, but I'd need to read more about her again perhaps

2017-09-03 22:10:13 UTC  

It's all held together by one guy.

2017-09-03 22:11:05 UTC  

James I can afford to be a flaming homo who believes in witches but the moment he hands it over to his son who will actually mismanage it to hell and cause a massive civil war, then yeah you fucked up.

2017-09-03 22:11:47 UTC  

I mean, 40 some year reign, no heir?

2017-09-03 22:12:16 UTC  

You don't have an adult kid to carry out your power.

2017-09-03 22:12:20 UTC  

Pretty easy.

2017-09-03 22:12:36 UTC  

couldn't find some prince willing to knock her up?

2017-09-03 22:12:54 UTC  

He tried but she didn't have any power on the ground.

2017-09-03 22:13:02 UTC  

And that is really obvious

2017-09-03 22:13:16 UTC  

If you marry her off to the third biggest goon.

2017-09-03 22:13:30 UTC  

And you're #1, your nephew is #2 etx

2017-09-03 22:14:14 UTC  

Yeah they totally swore that the holy Roman empress would.be queen to him but half of them of course reneged.

2017-09-03 22:14:50 UTC  

And capturing Stephen on the ground didn't do jack shit as they couldn't kill him as his dudes still controlled half the country.

2017-09-03 22:15:45 UTC  

And he had a major general of there's who would.be killed in return and you can't lose a third of your guys as you killed a guy that would cause them to kill your guy and his men won't fight for you anymore

2017-09-03 22:16:09 UTC  

That's what Robb stark did on game of thrones and what the mad king did before then.

2017-09-03 22:17:08 UTC  

That's why killing the king often won feudal battles as if you said you would fight for a dude as he is your dude and he dies, you have no reason to fight anymore.

2017-09-03 22:17:52 UTC  

See Hastings when everyone but Harolds personal guard ran away after he got anarrow in the eye (he still wasn't dead)

2017-09-03 22:18:11 UTC  

Your skull will often stop the bullet or arrow like Moshe Dayan.

2017-09-03 22:23:01 UTC  

@charles watson it's like why you can't conquer a place easily if you can't insert yourlsef at the top of what's already there