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2017-09-03 21:51:28 UTC  

they want people to feel included, very feminine type decisions

2017-09-03 21:57:10 UTC  

@charles watson bring back real feudalism and you get crazy shit.

2017-09-03 21:57:31 UTC  

Like the king of England declaring himself "imperial"

2017-09-03 21:57:40 UTC  

I definetly think we lost a lot of good things from the past

2017-09-03 21:57:55 UTC  

Or other people saying theyre the king as they have a bigger army than the king.

2017-09-03 21:59:06 UTC  

That's basically Rome. The population supported the Emperor against the vaguely democratic Senate every time.

2017-09-03 21:59:23 UTC  

Well if you had enough wealth and military experience, you could get real power.

2017-09-03 21:59:48 UTC  

And they would rather have had the military be the only root to real power under an autocrat.

2017-09-03 22:00:08 UTC  

people not born to hold power probably shouldn't be given power

2017-09-03 22:00:20 UTC  

@charles watson but that never worked.

2017-09-03 22:00:53 UTC  

indeed, kings would often surround themselves with people of ignoble heritage

2017-09-03 22:00:56 UTC  

It has produced the same amount of incompetent people as elections

2017-09-03 22:01:27 UTC  

Maybe less as the son that's incompetent tends to get killed and replaced.

2017-09-03 22:01:46 UTC  

Appointing your number 2 seems to work best.

2017-09-03 22:02:01 UTC  

well there was definetly some disorder that lead to becoming more democratic, but it still would have been preferable to maintain the older order

2017-09-03 22:02:06 UTC  

But your heir has to actually be your number 2 and effective at it.

2017-09-03 22:02:46 UTC  

With monarchy, if you do not have an adult male heir already doing part of your job, then you have failed.

2017-09-03 22:02:53 UTC  

And your kid will suck almost always.

2017-09-03 22:03:57 UTC  

That's how you end up with Aethelred the Unready or Nicholas II or Louis XVI or Commodus.

2017-09-03 22:04:04 UTC  

Or Caligula

2017-09-03 22:04:34 UTC  

Or Dominitian who just pissed people off.

2017-09-03 22:05:02 UTC  

Or Richard and John

2017-09-03 22:05:22 UTC  

Or William II, Henry I,

2017-09-03 22:05:30 UTC  

Totally incompetent pieces of shit.

2017-09-03 22:05:55 UTC  

what about Henry VIII?

2017-09-03 22:06:30 UTC  

Henry VIII was very competent as was Elizabeth and James I. Charles I was a fucking idiot

2017-09-03 22:06:45 UTC  

The problem was Henry VIII had no heir.

2017-09-03 22:08:07 UTC  

If he could hand his absolute monarchy to his #2 and have him marry his daughter, that would be a lot better but he couldn't

2017-09-03 22:08:18 UTC  

What was your issue with Henry I?

2017-09-03 22:08:39 UTC  

Henry I had like 30 kids and none of them a real heir

2017-09-03 22:09:00 UTC  

Which caused a massive civil war.

2017-09-03 22:09:24 UTC  

As he attempted to make his daughter queen and stephen said nuh uh

2017-09-03 22:09:34 UTC  

So you had actual anarchy.

2017-09-03 22:09:39 UTC  

wow, amazing how something like that can happen

2017-09-03 22:10:12 UTC  

I didn't much like Elizabeth I, but I'd need to read more about her again perhaps

2017-09-03 22:10:13 UTC  

It's all held together by one guy.

2017-09-03 22:11:05 UTC  

James I can afford to be a flaming homo who believes in witches but the moment he hands it over to his son who will actually mismanage it to hell and cause a massive civil war, then yeah you fucked up.

2017-09-03 22:11:47 UTC  

I mean, 40 some year reign, no heir?

2017-09-03 22:12:16 UTC  

You don't have an adult kid to carry out your power.

2017-09-03 22:12:20 UTC  

Pretty easy.

2017-09-03 22:12:36 UTC  

couldn't find some prince willing to knock her up?