Message from @fallot
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but at the same time, their control isn't perfect etc.
May is
else they wouldn't have anything to be afraid of
and also, there is no reason to think they themselves are unified
as I was saying
where I'm from, an intelligence agency runs shit
and there have been issues there of a bloc within the agency with their own goals etc.
or more than one bloc
why do we accept the existence of intelligence agencies
I'm not saying we dont need them
but think about them, just mull it over, dont say anything
for a day or an hour or a minute, think about these people
think about the erosion of institutions under leftism, are these people immune?
even in a totally benign reading, there is room for shadowy conspirators
its nothing crazy, it makes sense, it fits human motivations
I believe the reality is considerably crazier
but this is a starting point
Well yeah intrigue isn't anything new
yeah exactly
Many actors just waiting
a professional class of intriguers, respected by society, is new though
I have thought about those agencies
I mean in many ways a "state" or a "government" is an idea i.e. the people come and go but the existence of the trans-personal, non-material entity remains secure
Traditionally spies are despised
The idea of spies being cool is modern too
these spies are the real government in that sense
in jurisprudential theory, a major quesiton is the nature of sovreignty - scholars used to argue about whether the sovreign can be conceptually bound by the laws he himself creates
it's kind of a neat paradox that modern intelligence agencies have basically sidestepped
because ultimately, the answer is that no law but natural law truly binds the sovereign
An intelligence agency would also hate real leaders and kings
they run things, but their power is fake ultimately
that's why they are afraid
by corollary, you might argue, if you are looking for the sovereign...
"The power behind the throne"
The enemy behind the shield
It's another ersatz jews
Like the masons
Well yeah