Message from @fallot

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2017-09-27 21:01:46 UTC  

I'm not saying we dont need them

2017-09-27 21:01:55 UTC  

but think about them, just mull it over, dont say anything

2017-09-27 21:02:06 UTC  

for a day or an hour or a minute, think about these people

2017-09-27 21:02:22 UTC  

think about the erosion of institutions under leftism, are these people immune?

2017-09-27 21:02:39 UTC  

even in a totally benign reading, there is room for shadowy conspirators

2017-09-27 21:02:52 UTC  

its nothing crazy, it makes sense, it fits human motivations

2017-09-27 21:02:57 UTC  

I believe the reality is considerably crazier

2017-09-27 21:03:03 UTC  

but this is a starting point

2017-09-27 21:03:24 UTC  

Well yeah intrigue isn't anything new

2017-09-27 21:03:31 UTC  

yeah exactly

2017-09-27 21:03:32 UTC  

Many actors just waiting

2017-09-27 21:03:39 UTC  

intrigue is nothing new, well said

2017-09-27 21:04:05 UTC  

a professional class of intriguers, respected by society, is new though

2017-09-27 21:04:52 UTC  

I have thought about those agencies

2017-09-27 21:05:27 UTC  

I mean in many ways a "state" or a "government" is an idea i.e. the people come and go but the existence of the trans-personal, non-material entity remains secure

2017-09-27 21:05:27 UTC  

Traditionally spies are despised

2017-09-27 21:05:43 UTC  

The idea of spies being cool is modern too

2017-09-27 21:05:46 UTC  

these spies are the real government in that sense

2017-09-27 21:06:34 UTC  

in jurisprudential theory, a major quesiton is the nature of sovreignty - scholars used to argue about whether the sovreign can be conceptually bound by the laws he himself creates

2017-09-27 21:06:56 UTC  

it's kind of a neat paradox that modern intelligence agencies have basically sidestepped

2017-09-27 21:07:24 UTC  

yeah @UOC

2017-09-27 21:07:27 UTC  

because ultimately, the answer is that no law but natural law truly binds the sovereign

2017-09-27 21:07:37 UTC  

An intelligence agency would also hate real leaders and kings

2017-09-27 21:07:38 UTC  

they run things, but their power is fake ultimately

2017-09-27 21:07:42 UTC  

that's why they are afraid

2017-09-27 21:07:42 UTC  

by corollary, you might argue, if you are looking for the sovereign...

2017-09-27 21:08:08 UTC  

"The power behind the throne"

2017-09-27 21:08:25 UTC  

The enemy behind the shield

2017-09-27 21:09:49 UTC  

It's another ersatz jews

2017-09-27 21:09:53 UTC  

Like the masons

2017-09-27 21:10:12 UTC  

Well yeah

2017-09-27 21:10:20 UTC  

It's a very jewish concept

2017-09-27 21:12:03 UTC  

The editors of the jewish mag the Atlantic discuss that bit here, I think towards the middle it's a long vid worth the watch.

2017-09-27 21:12:29 UTC  

Using the crown to protect them from the population

2017-09-27 21:12:53 UTC  

fallot contextualize the one-eye thing for me. I presume the reference is the eye of providence but what is VC's view on "the illuminati"?

2017-09-27 21:14:05 UTC  

That is real

2017-09-27 21:14:33 UTC  

And inseparable from the occult and luciferianism

2017-09-27 21:15:52 UTC  

but what does VC say it is? is it a cabal of noses? or is it a metaphor for like the emergent occult behavior of cultural elites, many of whom are noses?

2017-09-27 21:16:47 UTC  

VC never says what something is