There's nothing to overcome if you're not weak in some way.

And what's most valuable is what's earned.

I think you have to love your weaknesses or they fall out of your control.

If you try to push them out, you only make them crop up in more subtle and therefore less manageable ways

Weakness is to be loved, for giving you something to overcome.

Your weakness can exist for others.

It's their challenge.

Overcoming weakness doesn't really mean eliminating them but making yourself whole I guess. That whole chariot metaphor. You don't get rid of passions or desires you direct them.

And it's your challenge to be involved in their challenge in this way.

The problem is only in weakness being made strength, and strength being made weakness.

@Nester "There's nothing to overcome if you're not weak in some way." -- I DISAGREE. THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY TO BE BETTER, BUT CALLING THAT WEAKNESS IS A STRETCH.

SOME PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY WEAK IN MENTAL AND MORAL STRUCTURE

IF WE HAARSLEV THEM, EVOLUTION ADVANCES

Evolution isn't teleological. Unless you have a theological bent

That's unstated

They should be allowed and encouraged to work out their problems.

CONSTANT IMPROVEMENT IS NOT TELEOLOGICAL

And punished if need be.

ADAPTATION

IS THE RULE

Adaption isn't improvement

A flying squirrel isn't an improvement over a grounded one

Each is adapted to circumstance/ecological niche

A flying squirrel is an improvement over a grounded one in an ecological niche rewarding flying.

But you're presuming that both occupy the same niche

And evolution isn't perfect.

Flying squirrel might have an advantage over grounded squirrel even in grounded squirrel's environment.

It's just that grounded squirrel has more of an advantage in his environment than his ancestors did.

a bat would be even more of an improvement in that niche

But fair worse

Didn't assume they occupied the same niche.

you know living like a squirrel

Just that it's possible to measure improvement.

That's different than whether or not adaption should be considered in terms of improvement

Or treated as a like terms

Don't disagree there.

Adaption is adaption. Improvement is improvement.

That's all I was saying

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You could take the same and apply to human organization and modes of substance. Each has judgements of value and standards of conduct that work well in some contexts but awfully in others.

THERE ARE ALSO EVOLUTIONARY BRANCHES