Message from @diversity_is_racism
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very high status family
Find the Bristow
Bristow Palin
WHERE IS NESTER?
SOMEONE BROUGHT HIM BACK. HE SHOULD STAY.
Nester is probably at his computer sitting zazen in ascetic contemplation of metal tier list Dharma
@Arthur Konrad Hey, there's two of you. Also, this is a little bit old of a comment but, how can the Elites have so much control without their nonsense being seen as good by the people? The People keep the fauxlites in power. Co-dependency is a scenario rife with hate no matter how attached everyone is to each other.
@Draugra#1319 Your view completely omits the existence of vast and complex technical frameworks
What people who control these frameworks need is the capacities themselves, and people necessary to operate them
People who are necessary to operate them are already bought by their inclusion in the structure
Everything else can be manipulated through the action-reaction principle
You can manufacture a consequence with such power no matter how much people dont wish those consequences, merely by giving them a powerful stimulus to act your way
For this reason alone is democracy distributed, which wherever the system is absent tends to perish quickly
Democracy is very potent at distributing your stimulus, so people will perform a necessary operation that will eventually lead to results *you* demand
So only two principles oppose the system, namely, the nurturing of absolute and lucid sovereignty, and promotion of relativism and cynicism regarding *all* motions produced within the system
But even that taken into account, nobody really has a proper response to the might of the technological-political complex except to propagate against it *conceptually*
To insist that whatever is produced under its framework is ultimately bad
It is a simple issue. The people want "equality" and they want unaccountability in the form of "liberty" and so, they hire whoever seems to fit these desires. The People, for the sake of assured inclusion, want used car salesmen on top.
@Arthur Konrad @Draugra I HAVE TO AGREE WITH DRAUGRA
PEOPLE SUCCUMB TO HERD BEHAVIOR
THIS EXPLAINS HOW CIVILIZATIONS THAT ARE WIDELY DISPERSED FAIL THE SAME WAY
ACROSS CULTURES, ACROSS TIME
THIS IS THE FACE OF HUBRIS: PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY IN CONTROL, SO THEY MAKE A DEVIL'S BARGAIN
THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, AND SO CAN EVERYONE ELSE
THIS CREATES THE HERD/CROWD
THIS THEN PURSUES ILLUSION AND IRONISM
DESTROYING THE CIVILIZATION
Herd bahvior alone isn't enough. It is that plus everything else you said.
Both of you ommit the key precept of our age - we don't live in an organic society, that fails as a unified body
The People split it up and then they went on keeping it split.
For the sake of power and ego.
While the majority is clueless and following the instructions given to them by the Elites, The ELites themselves are quite composed in their dealings
I doubt that. I think they are just living impulse going from extreme to extreme.
The Elites are a mechanical group which is not bound in any way to go down with the mob
There is nothing there to doubt, it is evident
The worldview that they harbor is something entirely alien and dehumanized, but it has nothing to do with how previous historical models worked, like, a society reaches the point of maximum popular rule, and all go down