Message from @Queef Madagascar
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Free will would be an illusion, in that case
I thought I made a decision but really I didn't
If I knew what you were doing doesn't make me force you to do that thing
Uh
If your all knowing
Kinda does
If I told the future
Well read it
And this is a hard thing to debate because god isn't in this universe and we can't explain it, but we know he can read into the future and the past etc. it doesn't make him force us to do the things that he knows we are going to do he just knows we will
If he knows that a bank is going to be robbed it doesn't mean that he made it get robbed
He just knew it would get robbed
That's a semantics issue
Well that poses another problem
How could an omnibenevolent god let bad things happen?
Have you read the bible
I thought you said you were Christian
Or are you Protestant
Agnostic
Theist
So you're a theist that is agnostic <:Thonk:362811285869559808>
Force as in make
If he knows what I'm going to do he could force us
I couldn't think of a word to fit
He could, but could does not equal would
By nature of him knowing he us forcing us into one path
If following the semetic religions god does not force you, however essentially shuns those who do not follow his path
its very paternal, however not authoritarian
Which makes no sense since he knows that they will not follow it
Kinda what the Calvinists say
It also poses another problem
Ew calvanists
If he knows I'm gonna sin then why is sinning bad?
I was gonna do it anyway
To say I made a *bad* choice implies I could make a choice
You're arguing with yourself at this point
he is omniscient however not omnipresent. Sin existed however Satan guided Eve into commiting sin.
Although there is an arguement on whether Lucifer invented or just influenced Eve to commit the first sin
Lucifer isn't Satan -_-
same figure, same antogonist character
Which denim are you