Message from @!Co-Owner!

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2017-10-21 14:59:08 UTC  

Why are you barging in with a random topic

2017-10-21 14:59:47 UTC  

Because it could be potential admin bullshit with the site itself and nobody has mentioned it so far?

2017-10-21 15:00:30 UTC  

Why are you posting it in serious chat

2017-10-21 15:00:46 UTC  

Where we're having philosophical discussion

2017-10-21 15:01:34 UTC  

So serious implies only serious philosophical discussion?

2017-10-21 15:01:43 UTC  

Yes

2017-10-21 15:01:57 UTC  

Don't post your random shit about the t_d in a debate chat room

2017-10-21 15:02:10 UTC  

k

2017-10-21 15:02:26 UTC  

Didn't know it was solely that

2017-10-21 15:03:02 UTC  

What did you think it was? Other than a chat for serious discussion on a political server

2017-10-21 15:03:46 UTC  

Free will would be an illusion, in that case

2017-10-21 15:04:02 UTC  

I thought I made a decision but really I didn't

2017-10-21 15:04:32 UTC  

If I knew what you were doing doesn't make me force you to do that thing

2017-10-21 15:04:40 UTC  

Uh

2017-10-21 15:04:46 UTC  

If your all knowing

2017-10-21 15:04:49 UTC  

Kinda does

2017-10-21 15:05:01 UTC  

If I told the future

2017-10-21 15:05:06 UTC  

Well read it

2017-10-21 15:06:43 UTC  

And this is a hard thing to debate because god isn't in this universe and we can't explain it, but we know he can read into the future and the past etc. it doesn't make him force us to do the things that he knows we are going to do he just knows we will

2017-10-21 15:07:07 UTC  

If he knows that a bank is going to be robbed it doesn't mean that he made it get robbed

2017-10-21 15:07:18 UTC  

He just knew it would get robbed

2017-10-21 15:07:20 UTC  

That's a semantics issue

2017-10-21 15:07:32 UTC  

Well that poses another problem

2017-10-21 15:07:48 UTC  

How could an omnibenevolent god let bad things happen?

2017-10-21 15:08:05 UTC  

Have you read the bible

2017-10-21 15:08:14 UTC  

I thought you said you were Christian

2017-10-21 15:08:23 UTC  

Or are you Protestant

2017-10-21 15:08:24 UTC  

Agnostic

2017-10-21 15:08:30 UTC  

Theist

2017-10-21 15:08:45 UTC  

So you're a theist that is agnostic <:Thonk:362811285869559808>

2017-10-21 15:09:51 UTC  

What do you even mean by force?

2017-10-21 15:10:01 UTC  

Force as in make

2017-10-21 15:10:10 UTC  

If he knows what I'm going to do he could force us

2017-10-21 15:10:12 UTC  

I couldn't think of a word to fit

2017-10-21 15:10:29 UTC  

He could, but could does not equal would

2017-10-21 15:10:32 UTC  

By nature of him knowing he us forcing us into one path

2017-10-21 15:11:34 UTC  

If following the semetic religions god does not force you, however essentially shuns those who do not follow his path

2017-10-21 15:11:58 UTC  

its very paternal, however not authoritarian

2017-10-21 15:12:05 UTC  

Which makes no sense since he knows that they will not follow it

2017-10-21 15:13:21 UTC  

Kinda what the Calvinists say

2017-10-21 15:13:54 UTC  

It also poses another problem