Yes

Don't post your random shit about the t_d in a debate chat room

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Didn't know it was solely that

What did you think it was? Other than a chat for serious discussion on a political server

Free will would be an illusion, in that case

I thought I made a decision but really I didn't

If I knew what you were doing doesn't make me force you to do that thing

Uh

If your all knowing

Kinda does

If I told the future

Well read it

And this is a hard thing to debate because god isn't in this universe and we can't explain it, but we know he can read into the future and the past etc. it doesn't make him force us to do the things that he knows we are going to do he just knows we will

If he knows that a bank is going to be robbed it doesn't mean that he made it get robbed

He just knew it would get robbed

That's a semantics issue

Well that poses another problem

How could an omnibenevolent god let bad things happen?

Have you read the bible

I thought you said you were Christian

Or are you Protestant

Agnostic

Theist

So you're a theist that is agnostic <:Thonk:362811285869559808>

What do you even mean by force?

Force as in make

If he knows what I'm going to do he could force us

I couldn't think of a word to fit

He could, but could does not equal would

By nature of him knowing he us forcing us into one path

If following the semetic religions god does not force you, however essentially shuns those who do not follow his path

its very paternal, however not authoritarian

Which makes no sense since he knows that they will not follow it

Kinda what the Calvinists say

It also poses another problem

Ew calvanists

If he knows I'm gonna sin then why is sinning bad?

I was gonna do it anyway

To say I made a *bad* choice implies I could make a choice

You're arguing with yourself at this point