Message from @Ironsides
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Well National Socialism in its essence was Racialist Fascism(or even Dharmic Fasicsm), it could be used as a framework for anybody.
And for the US part, I'd say thats evident of the accelerating societal decline Western countries are facing
As Spengler puts it, the `civilization phase`
It's not practical
How is it not practical? I'm not even an exponent of it but I think the world saw its practicality manifest during its armed struggle against the world.
Where it fought extraordinarily well
Unless you can somehow breed the leftism out, the establishment of any ethnostate here in the US would be very costly
Are you a civnat?
or cultural nat however you want to call it
No
I mean, I think fascists primary goal should be eliminating the influence of the current hegemony
I'm saying there will be no peaceful way to establish any system
Well thats not necessarily a bad thing
There is no non violence in modernity, there is only cowardly violence, and open unashamed violence for a worthy cause
Also the concept is not inherently universal, although it can be
But in practice every nation has its own issues
Which is why I aim to "Americanize" the European model to some degree that is congruent with the culture of a more pragmatic America before it became a bastardized poster modernist fantasy
The variant of Fascism I subscribe to is Integralism
National Integralism
America before it became bastardized was a white state by white people for white people
More or less although I believe there are groups of non-whites that pretty much earned their right to be here
So are you saying that you can take someone who has merit and is an asset to society (being an engineer or a doctor) and just shove them aside because they're a different skin color? That's not very pragmatic and you're throwing away talent.
As few as they are.
Race mixing unironically hurts everybody
So any financial benefit you get from having other people is automatically negated in the long run
This is supported by regression toward the mean, for example
I don't quite agree but I can see where people come from
A person of a characteristically tall race mixes with a person of the opposite, the offspring will not be as short as the shorter but not as tall as the taller
I mean its not really a debated phenomena its pretty well recorded
My problem with white nationalism is where do they draw the line? First it'll be race mixing, next it'll be eugenics.
I mean its not really about white nationalism, i think thats a redundancy that resulted from the perversion of what constitutes a nation by the enlightenment
To me a nation is a group of people who are ancestrally related
And I dont really see an issue with eugenics
I abhor it
Why
It leads to dangerous paths
and mindsets
If your goal is the faustian ideal(which presumably it is as a fascist) it is the natural conclusion
Or at least ending the propping up of bad genes as we see today
Propping up of bad genes?
Yeah