Message from @Ironsides

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2018-10-01 09:03:25 UTC  

There is no non violence in modernity, there is only cowardly violence, and open unashamed violence for a worthy cause

2018-10-01 09:05:27 UTC  

Also the concept is not inherently universal, although it can be

2018-10-01 09:05:34 UTC  

But in practice every nation has its own issues

2018-10-01 09:07:23 UTC  

Which is why I aim to "Americanize" the European model to some degree that is congruent with the culture of a more pragmatic America before it became a bastardized poster modernist fantasy

2018-10-01 09:07:42 UTC  

The variant of Fascism I subscribe to is Integralism

2018-10-01 09:07:49 UTC  

National Integralism

2018-10-01 09:08:24 UTC  

America before it became bastardized was a white state by white people for white people

2018-10-01 09:10:14 UTC  

More or less although I believe there are groups of non-whites that pretty much earned their right to be here

2018-10-01 09:11:12 UTC  

So are you saying that you can take someone who has merit and is an asset to society (being an engineer or a doctor) and just shove them aside because they're a different skin color? That's not very pragmatic and you're throwing away talent.

2018-10-01 09:11:49 UTC  

As few as they are.

2018-10-01 09:12:40 UTC  

Race mixing unironically hurts everybody

2018-10-01 09:13:05 UTC  

So any financial benefit you get from having other people is automatically negated in the long run

2018-10-01 09:13:22 UTC  

This is supported by regression toward the mean, for example

2018-10-01 09:13:45 UTC  

I don't quite agree but I can see where people come from

2018-10-01 09:14:03 UTC  

A person of a characteristically tall race mixes with a person of the opposite, the offspring will not be as short as the shorter but not as tall as the taller

2018-10-01 09:14:15 UTC  

I mean its not really a debated phenomena its pretty well recorded

2018-10-01 09:14:37 UTC  

My problem with white nationalism is where do they draw the line? First it'll be race mixing, next it'll be eugenics.

2018-10-01 09:15:23 UTC  

I mean its not really about white nationalism, i think thats a redundancy that resulted from the perversion of what constitutes a nation by the enlightenment

2018-10-01 09:15:31 UTC  

To me a nation is a group of people who are ancestrally related

2018-10-01 09:15:41 UTC  

And I dont really see an issue with eugenics

2018-10-01 09:15:48 UTC  

I abhor it

2018-10-01 09:15:57 UTC  

Why

2018-10-01 09:16:03 UTC  

It leads to dangerous paths

2018-10-01 09:16:07 UTC  

and mindsets

2018-10-01 09:16:10 UTC  

If your goal is the faustian ideal(which presumably it is as a fascist) it is the natural conclusion

2018-10-01 09:16:37 UTC  

Or at least ending the propping up of bad genes as we see today

2018-10-01 09:16:51 UTC  

Propping up of bad genes?

2018-10-01 09:17:09 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-01 09:17:14 UTC  

Retards living for 30+ years for example

2018-10-01 09:17:20 UTC  

Braindead people living for more than a day

2018-10-01 09:17:30 UTC  

and by that i mean people who are born braindead

2018-10-01 09:17:45 UTC  

Allowing intermixing between races

2018-10-01 09:17:59 UTC  

So you mean to say because of some minor genetic defects, I would not be worthy of getting treatment or let alone be living?

2018-10-01 09:18:55 UTC  

You can draw a line, right. If you're goal is to achieve the overman than the natural conclusion is to stop the proliferation of bad genes by preventing undesirables from breeding

2018-10-01 09:19:27 UTC  

I mean thats really the only conclusion if thats your goal

2018-10-01 09:20:25 UTC  

It's not and this a common misconception

2018-10-01 09:20:51 UTC  

Most Fascists I know (and not the larpers) are Nietzchian

2018-10-01 09:21:33 UTC  

It's not about the "superman" in the form of making a super species through biology, it's more or less spiritual supremacy

2018-10-01 09:22:21 UTC  

Its transcending the human condition, im familiar with nietzsche

2018-10-01 09:22:31 UTC  

It's also about conquering the ego as well

2018-10-01 09:24:07 UTC  

Even still your conclusions are wrong. Not sure what NatSoc brainlet you've been talking to but that isn't the Fascist end goal by killing off everyone who so much starts balding at the age of 24....