Message from @Bean of Texas

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2018-04-19 22:41:43 UTC  

i would call descendants of owned slaves and natives americans too

2018-04-19 22:41:50 UTC  

Just show CivNats facts, have discussions with them, don't degrade them but rather show them basic facts of our reality, and they will change.

2018-04-19 22:42:48 UTC  

but the abhorrent amount of immigrants, legal or illegal, from third world countries especially in africa make it difficult to discern slave owned from immigrated

2018-04-19 22:42:53 UTC  

i don't think everyone agrees that america is for americans. not at all. a whole lot of people think america is for anyone, or that it's a giant open-air shopping mall

2018-04-19 22:42:57 UTC  

@TraitorGG I think it’s kind of only fair to consider descendants slaves and natives as Americans too. Not because of “muh reparations” or anything but just because they were here in such mass numbers in the very early days of America’s history

2018-04-19 22:43:05 UTC  

"america is for everyone"

2018-04-19 22:43:06 UTC  

And @Bean of Texas I hate people who think like that

2018-04-19 22:43:08 UTC  

Maybe.

2018-04-19 22:43:10 UTC  

fuck that gay shit

2018-04-19 22:43:12 UTC  

Or just residents.

2018-04-19 22:43:23 UTC  

A country for everyone is a country for no one

2018-04-19 22:43:26 UTC  

I’ve seen people saying that the American flag is racist and that all flags need t be celebrated

2018-04-19 22:43:32 UTC  

Makes me angry as hell

2018-04-19 22:43:33 UTC  

syndrome from the incredibles logic

2018-04-19 22:43:35 UTC  

But voting rights should certainly be restricted for who they were meant for at this country's foundation.

2018-04-19 22:43:54 UTC  

voting rights should be restricted *anyway*

2018-04-19 22:44:14 UTC  

i don't want stupid white people voting any more than i want stupid black people voting

2018-04-19 22:44:21 UTC  

imagine if you need to show an ID to vote

2018-04-19 22:44:25 UTC  

@TraitorGG voting rights is a pretty shaky topic anyway because you can’t just say which citizens can and can’t vote. It sort of defeats the purpose of a citizenship

2018-04-19 22:44:27 UTC  

just imagine how much that would change things

2018-04-19 22:44:29 UTC  

i don't want voting. fuck democracy

2018-04-19 22:44:48 UTC  

Democracy can work if the most qualified can vote

2018-04-19 22:44:49 UTC  

you aught to have at least held a job and only vote in exchange for being on the "first to draft if we go to war" list

2018-04-19 22:44:54 UTC  

No it doesn't. in 1790 the only voters were white, landowning males.

2018-04-19 22:45:09 UTC  

I am a citizen yet I cannot vote? Do you know why? I'm not 18. Thats a restriction and yet I am a citizen.

2018-04-19 22:45:17 UTC  

It is the exact same concept as an age restriction.

2018-04-19 22:45:26 UTC  

yeah but telling people kids should vote

2018-04-19 22:45:27 UTC  

well

2018-04-19 22:45:28 UTC  

nevermind

2018-04-19 22:45:31 UTC  

But the 18 year old age restriction is for a valid reason

2018-04-19 22:45:35 UTC  

it probably *would* go over well

2018-04-19 22:45:42 UTC  

As is the white and landowning males one.

2018-04-19 22:45:51 UTC  

How

2018-04-19 22:45:56 UTC  

not so sure about landowning

2018-04-19 22:46:01 UTC  

It ensures they are 1) The ones that were meant for this nation and 2) have a stake in this nation, aren't freeloaders

2018-04-19 22:46:21 UTC  

Landowners have a vested interest in the success of a nation. An inner city minority on welfare does not.

2018-04-19 22:46:26 UTC  

Other than "muh gibs."

2018-04-19 22:46:27 UTC  

although the having a stake in the nations success philosophy is perfect

2018-04-19 22:46:35 UTC  

yeah but what about people who just live in gated suburbs

2018-04-19 22:46:37 UTC  

If I were to vote, I’d say I’d probably end up voting for the same person as any of you guys

2018-04-19 22:46:47 UTC  

and bought houses, and worked hard, but just don't own land