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again it is essentially fascistic as well by definition
No.
The crucial evidence against that
If you don’t want to look at the rhetoric and HOW they got there
Is that fascists never ever ever turn into communists and vice versa
And also they were anti-capitalist too
Fascists sure turn into conservatives and vice versa
And communists turn into liberals and vice versa
@Katze Miaulitzer nazis were not anti-capitalist
it says here on the wiki
Not sure where you get that from
Yeah, proving my point cobra
:3
Not if you actually read it
because again these two entities share a ton of similarities
@Katze Miaulitzer quote that page and show me wherenit says that
It actively disagrees with your statement
"Nazi propaganda posters in working class districts emphasised anti-capitalism, such as one that said: "The maintenance of a rotten industrial system has nothing to do with nationalism. I can love Germany and hate capitalism"
"The Nazis argued that free market capitalism damages nations due to international finance and the worldwide economic dominance of disloyal big business,"
"Both in public and in private, Hitler expressed disdain for capitalism, arguing that it holds nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class"
They’re arguing a pro isolationist stance
Yes, they’re talking about international banking
but they expressed that against free market capitalism in general
All of the top Nazi officials engaged in capitalist enterprises, and German business was inexorably intertwined with the Nazi party
"Joseph Goebbels, who would later go on to become the Nazi Propaganda Minister, was strongly opposed to both capitalism and communism, viewing them as the "two great pillars of materialism" that were "part of the international Jewish conspiracy for world domination."[267] Nevertheless, he wrote in his diary in 1925 that if he were forced to choose between them, "in the final analysis", "it would be better for us to go down with Bolshevism than live in eternal slavery under capitalism".[268] He also linked his anti-Semitism to his anti-capitalism, stating in a 1929 pamphlet that "we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, the misuse of the nation's goods."[167] "
AHEM
@Cobra Commander I read that article and it says exactly what I said
Which is that they are both authoritarian
Where exactly are you referring to in the article?
Literally the entire article
Well yes they are both authoritarian
that's not what I was arguing
It goes through the similarities in authoritarianism
yes and according to the definition of fascism they are very similar as well
Ok, then please quote the part of the article that supports your position
"The SA regarded Hitler's seizure of power in 1933 as a "first revolution" against the left, and some voices within the ranks began arguing for a "second revolution" against the right."
@Katze Miaulitzer yes, so it was an anti-left movement
Notice they didn’t actually get around to the second part
it would help if you acknowledged what fascism is.