like they were predicting the world would be some sort of hellscape by now

and almost nothing has changed

Yeah pretty much every 10 years they say the world is going to end in 5

woo 5 years

the same people that say we are going to terraform mars also say that earth will be destroyed

if we could terraform mars, we should be able to terraform earth if necessary

It would be easier here

yeah, there is just a total disconnect in their mind, they think we will be fleeing to space

See the younger generation listens to the darn propaganda and they listen to it because no one corrects them. They think that the world will be gone in 10 years just by itself if a republican wins. They are taught from a young age to hate conservativism m

they should be more worried about something like yellowstone errupting and putting out more CO2 than all of mankind

Yep

The most significant way to affect CO2 would be by progressively lowering the amount livestock over time and replacing them with plants. Going over to electric cars and vehicles. Utilizing nuclear power.

This alone would massively decrease CO2 output and hopefully slow down global warming and acidification of the oceans.

Sadly it won't be happening because it would require a change in lifestyle and ain't nobody got interest or time for that.

Thank you @Lamon. The best thing any of us can do right now to help the environment is change our diets away from red meat. Sadly most people don't want to give up their hamburgers and steak and fish dinners. Sadly I see so many people in this channel that don't seem to understand the severity of the situation.

Nobody likes change though and I admit it was a little difficult for me to stop eating red meats but I haven't had any kind of red meat for almost a year now and I'm doing just fine.

If anything I'm doing better. Red meats are terrible for your stomach lining and too much red meat will put significant strain on your digestive system leading to problems like diverticulitis.

@Festive Spaghetti You bring up a good point in regards to red meat. It isn't just indirectly bad for the environment through mass farming of livestock such as cows. It's also unhealthy to a concerning degree actually. Humans really aren't meant to eat a lot of meat and even worse most meat and food products in general today is extremely unhealthy because it's processed and has high amounts of sodium and still worse sugar in it.

I think it brings the underlying issue to light, that unhealthy and environmentally destructive food needs to be reduced at the consumer level. Which you are actively doing by cutting down on stuff like red meat.

Culturally there is a big problem with the stigma associated with reducing meat consumption in any form. Apparently people think it's macho to eat a lot of meat and a beta thing to be vegetarian or vegan. This makes no sense because humans aren't carnivores.

I think that there also needs to be a cultural shift for people to accept the idea of change. Which thankfully seems to be met with agreeance by the newer generations.

GG @Lamon, you just advanced to level 2!

@Lamon People do tend to look at vegetarians and vegans in the wrong way and highly-processed foods dominate our diets. Reducing unhealthy and environmentally damaging foods is going to be a challenge for many reasons. The big problem is that most politicians don't seem to care about the obesity problem in America but I can understand why; Forcing people to eat something that is healthy *is* technically infringing on human rights. However, *helping* people realize what they are eating is unhealthy is not. I don't think that a sugar tax is the right way to go but better educating children is a definite step in the right direction towards helping people make the right choice when it comes to their eating habits and destroying the beta stigma of having a healthier diet. A government-developed "health score" that would be required to be put on food products could help as long as it's a simple scale that everyone can understand *could* help but at the same time people eat the thinks they eat knowing that they are unhealthy.

In my opinion going full vegetarian isn't the best route if what you're looking for is a healthy diet. A diet that includes white meats will give you the nutrition your body needs without the health and environmental problems of red meats.

@Festive Spaghetti It's very true what you are saying and i do believe that proper education on the matter is the way to go.

Jesus someone who actually agrees with me for once. I don't come across that very often especially in <#518779466512596992>

I will always eat good quantifies of meat

Nobody can stop me with that.

No one ever tried to stop you, I literally just said that forcing people to eat something that is healthy is infringing on human rights.

However heathier, cheaper, safer, and more environmentally friendly meat alternatives are coming for your precious meat. I know it might sound scary that your meat is going to be replaced by impossible foods which taste exactly the same (in some cases even better) while being healthier and more environmentally friendly than traditional meat, but lab-grown and plant-based alternatives are going to become more profitable to make and *will* phase out traditional meat in the future.

interestingly they have already made plant based burger patties that taste exactly like meat.

so the future is now

it just needs to be widespread and the bought be he masses then the price will fall and it will be cheaper than actual meat.

Just like electric cars and solar energy the price of meat alternatives will go down.

Hopefully they will go down sooner rather than later.

@Festive Spaghetti I've tried impossible meat

It's not meat, and it doesn't taste good.

It's also hella expensive.

Boy that's your opinion I've tried it too and it's pretty hard to tell the difference.

Tbh, it’s really hard to dispose electric car batteries

And it is bad for the environment

Plus the cost of disposal is fucking expensive

“
As for cost, most experts agree a replacement hybrid car battery can range anywhere from $1,000 to more than $6,000, depending on the year and model of car, and without including dealership or independent labor costs. While this may seem like a big expense, car makers are set on reducing prices.”

But they haven’t yet

its kinda a waste of time to impose environmental regulations on western countries when china and india pollute at insanely high levels compared to us

Ye