Message from @Platinum Spark

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2019-09-11 23:25:26 UTC  

you can tell from the beginning something's off with this article:

2019-09-11 23:25:42 UTC  

"despite shrill denunciations of the president by the Democrats for his alleged racism"

2019-09-11 23:25:54 UTC  

that's not something that a real news organization would write

2019-09-11 23:26:00 UTC  

that's what a conservative blog would write

2019-09-11 23:26:08 UTC  

and they totally have their place, don't get me wrong

2019-09-11 23:26:22 UTC  

but what they're doing here is trying to cherry-pick polls

2019-09-11 23:26:29 UTC  

look at this part:

2019-09-11 23:26:57 UTC  

"this, of course, which is why they have worked so diligently to discredit polls that confirm the president’s gains among minority voters."

2019-09-11 23:26:57 UTC  

GG @Platinum Spark, you just advanced to level 13!

2019-09-11 23:27:23 UTC  

Then not many things can be considered legitimate news, including CNN, Fox, and MSNBC

2019-09-11 23:27:55 UTC  

sure

2019-09-11 23:28:03 UTC  

I disagree with you, but sure let's throw out all three of those

2019-09-11 23:28:35 UTC  

when it comes to polling, 538 is probably the gold standard

2019-09-11 23:28:49 UTC  

but AP, WaPo, WSJ, NYT

2019-09-11 23:28:54 UTC  

these are real news organizations

2019-09-11 23:29:00 UTC  

CBS, ABC

2019-09-11 23:29:22 UTC  

here:

2019-09-11 23:29:38 UTC  

you can take a look at how media bias affects different news organizations

2019-09-11 23:30:01 UTC  

better link

2019-09-11 23:30:39 UTC  

anyway, lets go back to the article

2019-09-11 23:30:47 UTC  

in January of this year, Marist found that Trump’s approval rating among Hispanics had reached 50 percent. Then, in February, a Morning Consult poll showed Hispanic approval of the president at 42 percent. This was followed by a March poll from McLaughlin & Associates that found Hispanic approval for the president at 50 percent.

2019-09-11 23:30:49 UTC  

now notice

2019-09-11 23:30:56 UTC  

he's not talking about gain over one poll

2019-09-11 23:31:02 UTC  

that would be something you could compare across time like that

2019-09-11 23:31:17 UTC  

he's taking 3 poll results across 3 different polls

2019-09-11 23:31:41 UTC  

that show approval at or below 50%

2019-09-11 23:31:49 UTC  

with no comparison to where they were before

2019-09-11 23:32:15 UTC  

so he's not saying trump gained support with minorities, he's just saying this is the minority approval rating at 3 different points in time according to 3 different polls

2019-09-11 23:34:52 UTC  

You left out the detail of the article giving the months that the polls were taken in

2019-09-11 23:34:58 UTC  

I didn't actually

2019-09-11 23:34:59 UTC  

I included it

2019-09-11 23:35:17 UTC  

Oh then my mistake.

2019-09-11 23:35:21 UTC  

so there was a poll in January that shows 50%

2019-09-11 23:35:35 UTC  

a different poll in feb that shows 42%

2019-09-11 23:35:38 UTC  

But with that then you can see that the most recent poll shows 50%

2019-09-11 23:35:44 UTC  

then a different poll in march taht shows 50%

2019-09-11 23:35:50 UTC  

how does that equate to gaining support?

2019-09-11 23:36:09 UTC  

Because it had increased from the last poll?

2019-09-11 23:36:09 UTC  

he lost 8% support in Feb and regained it in March?