We typically talk about chronic

And that’s mostly what you and trauma are talking about

But they’re a minority of the homeless pop

Mostly people who lose jobs and such

Transitional

I'm just talking about anybody without a stable living situation, I'm not sure how it ought to be arbitrarily understood for the sake of data-taking or particular social programs. If you can find somewhere to stay for 6 months in a program, but they put you back on the street at the end of the 6 months, you're suffering like any other unsheltered person to me because of the precarity involved with your living situation, but that's kind of beside the point.

Anybody who is without income outside of welfare, wouldn't be able to afford to live in a low-to-middle income housing situation

And a 10% reduction wouldn't help them much either

In urbanisation, housing are going to cost more in cities where most the jobs are

It's not a complete response to ending homelessness. Something like a Housing First policy or like we both agree single-payer could actually address the core cause of homelessness

Theres always going to be homelessness (as of our current time)

I think you’re underestimating how much a 10% reduction would alleviate housing prices

But sure I agree it’s not a perfect solution

I mean like I'm low-to-middle income. My housing combined with my roommate cost like 800 dollars

10% means I get 40 more dollars

annual or monthly?

Monthly

a 40 dollar reduction doesn't make it accessible to people in lower income brackets.

Jesus christ I'd fucking love to pay 800 *annually* in rent

that'd be fantastic

so you get 480 dollars a year

also don't you share with a roommate?

imagine if you didn't, the you would save 960 dollars a year

I pay like around 400, if our rent was reduced 10%, I'd only pay 40 less a month

THat's not a significant change.

Hey man that's a streaming service subscription

What is significant?

In terms of houses, like if you're taking out a mortgage, 10% is huge, but if you're renting, which is specifically what Warren talks about in that article, it can be miniscule.

You don’t live in the Bay Area

mortgages only work for middle class buying housing and such, while rent helps everyone who rent

Or on either coast

Like it sounds big yearly, but when you contextualize that you pay monthly or bimonthly, you're unlikely to notice unless you're paying over a thousand dollars in rent, which low to middle income people aren't doing on the regular.

That’s just not accurate

yeah, cities have higher cost than 800

I live in Atlanta

There's not housing for less than 1000 downtown

But like

Nobody doing what I do for work lives downtown.

mamma mia

here we go again

We’re talking about the Bay Area and NYC