Message from @fuck12moredeadcops

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2019-10-07 16:58:20 UTC  

GG @fuck12moredeadcops, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-10-07 16:58:31 UTC  

"*Chronically homeless individuals are individuals with disabilities who have either been continuously homeless for one year or more or who have experienced at least four episodes of homelessness in the past three years where the combined length of time homeless in those occasions is at least 12 months.*"

2019-10-07 16:58:39 UTC  

It’s the technical definition

2019-10-07 16:58:43 UTC  

And they also necessitate some form of disability

2019-10-07 16:59:18 UTC  

I'm not just talking about the disabled and people who're wholly unsheltered for an entire year. Anybody who cannot find a stable living situation is in just as shite a situation

2019-10-07 16:59:32 UTC  

...ok

2019-10-07 16:59:46 UTC  

The 3 types of homelessness are chronic, transitional and disaster

2019-10-07 16:59:58 UTC  

We typically talk about chronic

2019-10-07 17:00:06 UTC  

And that’s mostly what you and trauma are talking about

2019-10-07 17:00:12 UTC  

But they’re a minority of the homeless pop

2019-10-07 17:00:31 UTC  

Mostly people who lose jobs and such

2019-10-07 17:00:47 UTC  

Transitional

2019-10-07 17:02:59 UTC  

I'm just talking about anybody without a stable living situation, I'm not sure how it ought to be arbitrarily understood for the sake of data-taking or particular social programs. If you can find somewhere to stay for 6 months in a program, but they put you back on the street at the end of the 6 months, you're suffering like any other unsheltered person to me because of the precarity involved with your living situation, but that's kind of beside the point.

2019-10-07 17:03:32 UTC  

Anybody who is without income outside of welfare, wouldn't be able to afford to live in a low-to-middle income housing situation

2019-10-07 17:03:42 UTC  

And a 10% reduction wouldn't help them much either

2019-10-07 17:04:27 UTC  

In urbanisation, housing are going to cost more in cities where most the jobs are

2019-10-07 17:04:29 UTC  

It's not a complete response to ending homelessness. Something like a Housing First policy or like we both agree single-payer could actually address the core cause of homelessness

2019-10-07 17:05:03 UTC  

Theres always going to be homelessness (as of our current time)

2019-10-07 17:05:08 UTC  

I think you’re underestimating how much a 10% reduction would alleviate housing prices

2019-10-07 17:05:20 UTC  

But sure I agree it’s not a perfect solution

2019-10-07 17:05:56 UTC  

I mean like I'm low-to-middle income. My housing combined with my roommate cost like 800 dollars

2019-10-07 17:06:01 UTC  

10% means I get 40 more dollars

2019-10-07 17:06:13 UTC  

annual or monthly?

2019-10-07 17:06:21 UTC  

Monthly

2019-10-07 17:06:34 UTC  

a 40 dollar reduction doesn't make it accessible to people in lower income brackets.

2019-10-07 17:06:40 UTC  

Jesus christ I'd fucking love to pay 800 *annually* in rent

2019-10-07 17:06:44 UTC  

that'd be fantastic

2019-10-07 17:06:52 UTC  

so you get 480 dollars a year

2019-10-07 17:07:02 UTC  

also don't you share with a roommate?

2019-10-07 17:07:22 UTC  

imagine if you didn't, the you would save 960 dollars a year

2019-10-07 17:07:29 UTC  

I pay like around 400, if our rent was reduced 10%, I'd only pay 40 less a month

2019-10-07 17:07:34 UTC  

THat's not a significant change.

2019-10-07 17:07:50 UTC  

Hey man that's a streaming service subscription

2019-10-07 17:07:53 UTC  

What is significant?

2019-10-07 17:08:26 UTC  

In terms of houses, like if you're taking out a mortgage, 10% is huge, but if you're renting, which is specifically what Warren talks about in that article, it can be miniscule.

2019-10-07 17:09:03 UTC  

You don’t live in the Bay Area

2019-10-07 17:09:03 UTC  

mortgages only work for middle class buying housing and such, while rent helps everyone who rent

2019-10-07 17:09:09 UTC  

Or on either coast

2019-10-07 17:09:14 UTC  

Like it sounds big yearly, but when you contextualize that you pay monthly or bimonthly, you're unlikely to notice unless you're paying over a thousand dollars in rent, which low to middle income people aren't doing on the regular.

2019-10-07 17:09:28 UTC  

That’s just not accurate

2019-10-07 17:09:29 UTC  

yeah, cities have higher cost than 800