Message from @fuck12moredeadcops

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2019-10-07 17:55:49 UTC  

Yeah but it’s too broad a term

2019-10-07 17:55:51 UTC  

The government does exactly what you are doing lol

2019-10-07 17:55:59 UTC  

They simply laugh at those who are woke

2019-10-07 17:56:03 UTC  

It is broad intentionally

2019-10-07 17:56:13 UTC  

How else do you think the people stay dumb?

2019-10-07 17:56:23 UTC  

It's an entire class of people who all operate by generating their money the same way

2019-10-07 17:56:28 UTC  

Because bourgeoise must refer to the smallholders as well

2019-10-07 17:56:30 UTC  

A lot of that "lizzard stuff" is just total bs

2019-10-07 17:56:33 UTC  

Right but it doesn’t

2019-10-07 17:56:43 UTC  

Petite-Bourgeoisise

2019-10-07 17:56:57 UTC  

Even in Marxism, he talked about the bourgeois revolution preceding the proletariat revolution

2019-10-07 17:56:58 UTC  

If you own stocks you're technically bourgeois

2019-10-07 17:57:06 UTC  

Right “technically”

2019-10-07 17:57:16 UTC  

Yes there was a bourgeois revolution against the aristocratic classes in feudalism

2019-10-07 17:57:24 UTC  

Sort of

2019-10-07 17:57:37 UTC  

Like a series of bourgeois revolutions

2019-10-07 17:57:38 UTC  

That’s the Marxist narrative, but not reeeally how it went down

2019-10-07 17:57:57 UTC  

Where was there a peaceful transition from feudalism to capitalism?

2019-10-07 17:58:22 UTC  

I’m just saying that it wasn’t the bourgeoise vs. the nobles

2019-10-07 17:58:29 UTC  

Like look at Lafayette

2019-10-07 17:58:32 UTC  

It literally was.

2019-10-07 17:58:33 UTC  

He was 2nd estate

2019-10-07 17:58:39 UTC  

Class traitors exist

2019-10-07 17:58:42 UTC  

And was a revolutionary

2019-10-07 17:58:44 UTC  

and people can engage in class suicide

2019-10-07 17:58:45 UTC  

Lol ok

2019-10-07 17:58:49 UTC  

Engels owned a factory

2019-10-07 17:59:02 UTC  

It is not unheard of for someone to go against their own class interest

2019-10-07 17:59:13 UTC  

Sure if you frame it like that, but that’s no-true-Scotsman logic

2019-10-07 17:59:20 UTC  

how..?

2019-10-07 17:59:34 UTC  

Small business - come in all shape and sizes

2019-10-07 17:59:43 UTC  

You’re framing any of the MANY liberal nobles, or conservative bourgeoise as class traitors

2019-10-07 17:59:49 UTC  

To force them into a narrative

2019-10-07 18:00:12 UTC  

The French Revolution was not even broadly about the 3rd estate vs the second estate

2019-10-07 18:00:39 UTC  

Like where do the enlightened monarchists fit in?

2019-10-07 18:00:40 UTC  

It is not forcing them into my narrative. If you were part of the noble classes, and you supported the expansion of land-ownership to the merchant class, you were working against the interest of the noble classes. You were absolutely a class traitor

2019-10-07 18:00:45 UTC  

No

2019-10-07 18:01:11 UTC  

and if you were a possessed merchant trying to maintain feudalism, despite the fact it prevented your ownership of private property, you'd be working against your own class interest

2019-10-07 18:01:20 UTC  

No, you wouldn’t

2019-10-07 18:01:24 UTC  

Being in one class and thinking like another does not make you a class traitor

2019-10-07 18:01:30 UTC  

Because you’d be trying to buy your way into the second estate