I think you've been watching too much infowars

@Platinum Spark Within Marxism we use it to refer to the possessed class

Like people who own capital

Yeah but it’s too broad a term

The government does exactly what you are doing lol

They simply laugh at those who are woke

It is broad intentionally

How else do you think the people stay dumb?

It's an entire class of people who all operate by generating their money the same way

Because bourgeoise must refer to the smallholders as well

A lot of that "lizzard stuff" is just total bs

Right but it doesn’t

Petite-Bourgeoisise

Even in Marxism, he talked about the bourgeois revolution preceding the proletariat revolution

If you own stocks you're technically bourgeois

Right “technically”

Yes there was a bourgeois revolution against the aristocratic classes in feudalism

Sort of

Like a series of bourgeois revolutions

That’s the Marxist narrative, but not reeeally how it went down

Where was there a peaceful transition from feudalism to capitalism?

I’m just saying that it wasn’t the bourgeoise vs. the nobles

Like look at Lafayette

It literally was.

He was 2nd estate

Class traitors exist

And was a revolutionary

and people can engage in class suicide

Lol ok

Engels owned a factory

It is not unheard of for someone to go against their own class interest

Sure if you frame it like that, but that’s no-true-Scotsman logic

how..?

Small business - come in all shape and sizes

You’re framing any of the MANY liberal nobles, or conservative bourgeoise as class traitors

To force them into a narrative

The French Revolution was not even broadly about the 3rd estate vs the second estate

Like where do the enlightened monarchists fit in?

It is not forcing them into my narrative. If you were part of the noble classes, and you supported the expansion of land-ownership to the merchant class, you were working against the interest of the noble classes. You were absolutely a class traitor

No

and if you were a possessed merchant trying to maintain feudalism, despite the fact it prevented your ownership of private property, you'd be working against your own class interest