Message from @Dr.Cosby
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The proposed amendments to the bill would've HELPED the veteran women yet the Chairman shut down debate over it.
the bill is focused on more specific issues, women's health. control f doesn't find any mention of guns, for example
That's not the place for a debate on gun rights
i think the label 'poison pill' amendment is apt here
It wasn't just guns the amendments also covered VA child care.
'not just guns' means it DID contain stuff on guns
a bill on women's health is the wrong place for that
It was on women's care and benefits. Granting them gun rights is a benefit to them.
Gun rights is a much larger issue than military-related health care
```This has been bubbling for awhile. GOP wants to introduce amendments and Democrats say they're using non-controversial bills (in this case helping female vets at the VA) to attach partisan amendments. Story coming.``` from the Stars and Stripes reporter that was reporting on it
They should have at least let the debate occur instead of silencing it.
Suppressing debate doesn't seem like good behavior for a committee chairman.
Why debate if something unrelated should be in that bill? They can do another bill for gun stuff, the original bill has been in the works for some time and was getting prepared for the next step
seems obvious the timing was purposeful and so are the 'arguments' the quoted reps are putting up
at least one GOP member was upset by the others
Lol the GOP is disgusting, and you're a groveling pig by spinning it like this (or rather, regurgitating whatever right wing retard you like to listen ramble) @βπ
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Carry on then, freakshow.
Andy Barr well well
i remember him, his last opponent for seat was a female marine fighter pilot
It wasn't totally unrelated to the bill what they were trying to add would have benefitted veterans and the purpose of the bill was care and benefits for vets.
the bill was 99% about women's issues specifically
and they had months to bring up the other stuff
The minority committee members did not object to the underlying bill but offered amendments to improve the bill and the benefits it offered.
Sometimes those are 'poisoned pill' amendments, desigend to either add contraversy to a bill so it gets held up in a PC manner, or if they want to sneak in stuff on the low by attacking it to 'no brainer' bills
```Roe and minority members defended their amendments following the hearing, saying they had bipartisan support. This also isn't the first time those amendments have been shot down by committee leadership. The amendments were ruled out of order when members tried to add them to a previous bill in July.Β
Members also offered the amendments as standalone bills, but so far, those bills have not gotten a hearing.Β ```
Anyways I need to do work right now, it was nice talking with you.
That quote is exactly how a poisoned pill amendment works
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```an amendment to a legislative bill that considerably weakens the bill's intended effect, or ruins the bill's chances of passing.``` By attaching the not closely related and obviously controversial amendment, it hurts the chances of the wider bill
They were hoping, most likely, to do what you are doing in here. Attaching something every American knows is a controversial politically, guns, to something only trannies would complain about "women-specific veteran health issues"
```The Senate this year has abandoned the perennial brawls over policy riders that uprooted its regular spending process for nearly a decade, aiming to avoid another paralyzing funding fight this fall.
In a pact thatβs gone largely unnoticed on Capitol Hill, senators of both parties have so far crafted bills that are virtually free of so-called poison pill riders that usually entangle the annual spending bills. ```
```βFor those who are new to this, itβs no small accomplishment,β Leahy said Thursday. βWe avoided new poison pill riders, from either the left or the right.β```
from another situation to illustrate how they bog down the process
The amendments had bipartisan support, so they likely would've been added to the bill if debate had not been shut down, and they were related to the bill because they involved benefits for veterans.
```"I've been here 11 years in this committee which is the most bipartisan committee in Congress," Ranking Member Rep. Phil Roe, R-Tenn., said. "We took pride in that. I have never seen this type of behavior since I have been here in this committee. We've never suppressed the debate. We've always allowed the debate. ... That's how our country works ...Β I'm embarrassed by what this committee has become."Β ```
```At issue was debate on the Deborah Sampson Act, an omnibus bill to improve women veterans'Β care and remove barriers. Republican members offered amendments to the bill, but Chairman Rep. Mark Takano, D-Calif., refused to allow amendments or debate on the bill before calling for a vote, which passed the bill to the House floor.Β
After further requests for debate or clarification on parliamentary procedure were similarly denied, Republican members, stood and exited the hearing room together.```
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