Message from @I/IgnoreReality

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2019-12-12 09:07:37 UTC  

there is an equilibrium that we crossed long ago

2019-12-12 09:07:54 UTC  

It's just an organizational tool, when we start saying 'everything the gov does is evil', we walk right into a trap set by some of the more evil peolpe out there, who want no check on their power etc.

2019-12-12 09:08:12 UTC  

I don't think it's an equilibrium seeking system

2019-12-12 09:08:17 UTC  

that's part of the problem

2019-12-12 09:08:30 UTC  

the 'balanced scales' metaphor is very bad in most social cases

2019-12-12 09:08:42 UTC  

I think you're a bot that is programmed to disagree with everything I say

2019-12-12 09:08:46 UTC  

it mistakes a complex system for an ordered system, which very few social systems are

2019-12-12 09:09:08 UTC  

the earth is spherical in shape

2019-12-12 09:09:33 UTC  

DOES NOT COMPUTE

2019-12-12 09:09:47 UTC  

Hey it’s shot here

2019-12-12 09:09:47 UTC  

GG @I/IgnoreReality, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-12-12 09:10:00 UTC  

No the earth is more of a spherical orb

2019-12-12 09:10:29 UTC  

“Spherical in shape” is merely the wording a simpleton would use

2019-12-12 09:10:44 UTC  

not sophisticated enough?

2019-12-12 09:11:01 UTC  

Of course

2019-12-12 09:11:14 UTC  

these guys wrote a book on what i said above

2019-12-12 09:11:14 UTC  

That’s my clone ^

2019-12-12 09:11:24 UTC  

Don’t listen to my clone

2019-12-12 09:11:36 UTC  

when people don't understand how complex systems work, it's almost impossible to talk to them about social systems, public policy, etc

2019-12-12 09:12:03 UTC  

I’m shot @qwasi the f you saying mate

2019-12-12 09:12:04 UTC  

they try to take an individual-based scenario and apply it society wide, that does not work

2019-12-12 09:13:23 UTC  

Stfu bitch boi

2019-12-12 09:13:58 UTC  

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to prove

2019-12-12 09:14:02 UTC  

that government is complex?

2019-12-12 09:14:03 UTC  

I mean...

2019-12-12 09:14:14 UTC  

I would never tell myself to stfu

2019-12-12 09:14:18 UTC  

After all I am shot

2019-12-12 09:14:21 UTC  

Fuck yummy add

2019-12-12 09:14:31 UTC  

you said "equilibrium we passed", etc, the very idea such a thing existed/exists is part of the problem

2019-12-12 09:14:32 UTC  

Fuck my ass *

2019-12-12 09:14:42 UTC  

Stupid autocorrect

2019-12-12 09:14:53 UTC  

'complex' in this case does not mean complicated or 'having many parts'

2019-12-12 09:15:27 UTC  

so are you arguing we should give the government unlimited power?

2019-12-12 09:15:38 UTC  

That's also not what it means

2019-12-12 09:15:46 UTC  

is that what you're saying?

2019-12-12 09:17:03 UTC  

if it's not, then there is some "imaginary line" where the people have a certain amount of power and the government has a certain amount, that we should strive to find and uphold

2019-12-12 09:17:29 UTC  

and giving the government more power than it needs to do what we want it to is a terrible idea

2019-12-12 09:17:31 UTC  

there is no line to cross. the systems we design have to be adaptive

2019-12-12 09:17:38 UTC  

that metaphor is broken

2019-12-12 09:17:50 UTC  

yes adapt, wow so intellectual