should we have just let them attack our embassy, and carry out further attacks on Americans, and do nothing?

@Sh0t Trump and the charges he was given are not fair and justice in any way, to be honest. Just an attempt to overthrow someone who isn't liked.

They are, and the recent emails with the OMB people and the defense lawyers make it even worse

Trump will be tried and put to death any day now

the emails gave us an updated timeline, that starts the day of

@qwasi Obviously not but look what our presence has done: more chaos ensues and more hate towards Americans. We MAY be doin g what we think is the right thing but sometimes we go too far.

the obstruction charge is obvious, he ordered people not to testify

JuSt A MaTtTeR oF TiMe NoW!

@Sh0t got links to those specifically

You say obviously not, but then contradict yourself

either we act or we don't

it's not Trump's fault we're in the ME

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/us/politics/trump-ukraine-military-aid.html

@qwasi Some Americans believe killing the top authority was necessary and something that may have stopped further conflicts, but in the eyes of others it is an aggression on their behalf. If they vow to expell all foreign troops, we should cooperate. If we do not, it is an act of aggression to them since we are not complying.

I think you're confusing Iran and Iraq

They are two different countries

The Iraqi PM was sucked into this situation because Trump basically used him to bait Soleimani into a good faith situation involving Iran and KSA

I think I did mix them once, but my point stands

But your point doesn't make sense since you're mixing up two different things into one

and you can't talk about Embassy situation in good faith without talking about what instigated it, the aistrike the Iraqis asked the US to call off

25 ISIS fighting militia killed

It is all DurkaDurkaStan. @qwasi

the Kirkuk situation that prceded that was murky, the accused group denied it, and they are not shy about giving us the finger

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I'm supposed to base everything off what the accused group said about it?

that's awfully shaky ground

of course, you know that

The Iraqis wanted the air strike halted until there was more to go on

the murky ground was the Kirkuk attack to begin with

The US ignored the Iraqi call not to strike while they investigated

The same Iraqis that are so incompetent they couldn't protect the embassy

Hi

killed 25 miliia, which set off the embassy situation

All the while, Soleimani was engaged in talks with KSA

that's how Trump's call to Iraqi PM was able to 'lure him' out

he was operating in good faith, Trump talked about negotiating, the Iraqi pm passed on the word, and then Soleimani was hit

lol

The U.S. has guts to kill someone so high in their ranks in a foreign country, I'll say. And especially someone who is praised by their people. We see it as a job done right and the others see it as an aggression

assuming that's all completely accurate, am I supposed to feel sorry for Soleimani?

@qwasi I prefer the top notch Hollywood version of the ME: https://youtu.be/DIlG9aSMCpg