Message from @Sh0t
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either we act or we don't
it's not Trump's fault we're in the ME
@qwasi Some Americans believe killing the top authority was necessary and something that may have stopped further conflicts, but in the eyes of others it is an aggression on their behalf. If they vow to expell all foreign troops, we should cooperate. If we do not, it is an act of aggression to them since we are not complying.
I think you're confusing Iran and Iraq
They are two different countries
The Iraqi PM was sucked into this situation because Trump basically used him to bait Soleimani into a good faith situation involving Iran and KSA
I think I did mix them once, but my point stands
But your point doesn't make sense since you're mixing up two different things into one
and you can't talk about Embassy situation in good faith without talking about what instigated it, the aistrike the Iraqis asked the US to call off
25 ISIS fighting militia killed
It is all DurkaDurkaStan. @qwasi
the Kirkuk situation that prceded that was murky, the accused group denied it, and they are not shy about giving us the finger
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I'm supposed to base everything off what the accused group said about it?
that's awfully shaky ground
of course, you know that
The Iraqis wanted the air strike halted until there was more to go on
the murky ground was the Kirkuk attack to begin with
The same Iraqis that are so incompetent they couldn't protect the embassy
Hi
killed 25 miliia, which set off the embassy situation
All the while, Soleimani was engaged in talks with KSA
that's how Trump's call to Iraqi PM was able to 'lure him' out
he was operating in good faith, Trump talked about negotiating, the Iraqi pm passed on the word, and then Soleimani was hit
lol
The U.S. has guts to kill someone so high in their ranks in a foreign country, I'll say. And especially someone who is praised by their people. We see it as a job done right and the others see it as an aggression
assuming that's all completely accurate, am I supposed to feel sorry for Soleimani?
@qwasi I prefer the top notch Hollywood version of the ME: https://youtu.be/DIlG9aSMCpg
It's not about feeling sorry for him, it' sabout not getting the US sucked into something unnecessarily dangerous, in addition to hurtin gour credibility as good faith actors
somethign we already damaged with the Iran deal withdrawl
of course the enemy sees an attack on themselves as aggression? @Allan_Cruz
and the Kurdish situation
We just fundamentally disagree with whether or not you can negotiate with these people
"enemy" - A bit harsh
Hate the government, not the people
Whether we can negotiate with them or not is a separate issue from our behaving in good faith.
(and we can, and have at various times)
@Allan_Cruz when one side is attacked, of course they see the attack as an aggression, I don't understand what you're trying to say other than stating the obvious
on top of just the the unnecessary escalation with iran , while SOleimani was engaging in talks with KSA