Message from @Festive Spaghetti
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on trump bring in the national guard to 3 cities
but then again
we didn't go to war with iran.
Believe it or not, I’m glad the Democrats blocked Trump’s stimulus package. It was a dumb idea and Trump shouldn’t of proposed it.
We need a stimulus now
What we need is a real leader that represents us, the American people, and not himself and his fellow mega corporations. We need someone who the people can look up to and trust whole-heatedly in troubled times like the present day.
@Festive Spaghetti So you think socialism will do the trick?
Will unfettered capitalism do the trick?
Government regulation in moderation is a good thing. No one denies that. Socialism is an economic system that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
What I was talking about is we need a leader who doesn't immediately think of himself and the stock market when he hears that people are dying because of a virus that is spreading like wildfire in *his* country. That has nothing to do with socialism.
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Socialism
is big bad
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@Festive Spaghetti First off, yes capitalism will (and has) done the trick while socialism has failed. Many critical thinkers deny that government regulation is a good thing. Look at any socialist country you want to and tell me how they are a success. Capitalism built up America’s standard of living and innovation to the place it is today. Of course, there needs to be something in place so that people don’t exploit capitalism, but that is called protection, not regulation.
Also, those are my weakest arguments. I have much stronger ones, but I want to see how you respond to this first.
The only critical thinkers that deny government regulation is a good thing are the people who have been manipulated by the massive cooperations that run the republican party
Also you are assuming that I am a socialist who believes that the free market does nothing right which is horribly untrue.
@Festive Spaghetti “manipulated but the massive cooperations” goes against the very definition of critical thinkers.
Also, I am not assuming that
The people you are referring to are the self-proclaimed critical thinkers who like to inject doubt into the peoples brains and cherry pick evidence so they and their fellow billionaires can get the votes they need to overthrow the american government.
Don't be shallow.
See through the bull.
@Festive Spaghetti Ok, what about Thomas Jefferson?
(Please tag me when you respond. I’m a bit busy)
@Yusa I'd like to to respond the the main point I was trying to convey earlier instead of crying socialist. I'm giving you the floor.
@Festive Spaghetti The point about needing a strong leader who cares about the people? Yeah, we’re getting to that; but because you don’t think capitalism is the best option, I have to convince you of that first
I don't think capitalism is the best option for what?
@Festive Spaghetti If I’m assuming correctly, you believe the government should take a socialistic approach to helping the people.
We need to clear that up before we talk about “real leaders”
I don't think that real leaders are socialists if that's what you think. Yes I do believe that healthcare is a right that everyone should have and I don't think that a cooperation that wants nothing more than to make money and please investors should be in charge of keeping me alive. You see if the heathcare market was competitive enough to where capitalism could work it's magic like it does for most markets then I wouldn't have to say this but that simply isn't the case.
@Festive Spaghetti The healthcare system is not competitive because the government is funding some of it. If it were truly capitalist, there would be lower prices and better service. Healthcare has many things going against it.
Are you telling me that the government is incentivizing companies to jack insulin prices hundreds of times higher than they should be?
That's where capitalism doesn't work in our favor.
We need regulation.
The government doesn't decide wether or not there is competition in an market. The government wouldn't need to pull out funding if there was a company selling insulin for half the price of everyone else.
@Festive Spaghetti No, I’m not. Although the government is subsidizing it, not incentivizing it.
The healthcare system is also often getting sued, which is another reason for high-prices. I agree that healthcare needs fixed, the place it is not is horrible; but by giving it to everybody free, you will create problems, not solve them.
If you were to give out free healthcare, it would result in much higher taxes for the people and eventually complete government control
And that’s just one problem
I never said free healthcare.
When did i say that?
I said healtcare is a right but I never said that you should just be given insulin for free.
@Festive Spaghetti Wait, you don’t? Ok. That makes things much easier