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Father God is above the son and holy spirit hence jesus saying "I and the father are one" but also "the father is greater than I"
but isnt god all powerful?
Yes
God is all powerful
In Islam and Christianity
i dont believe that
You don't believe God is all powerful?
Do you believe in God at all?
if god is all powerfull why does he need jesus?
I'm not sure if we would say God "needs" Jesus per se
but god needed jesus to forgive us right?
Scripturally Jesus always existed with God and as God since the beginning
therefore god didnt have the power to forgive us, and wasnt all powerfull
Oof
but jesus neede to go to earth and die, to forgive us for not following the ten commandments
Debunked
The usual Christian belief is that sin required some sort of atonement and Jesus provided that atonement
Basically
for some reason god cant just snap his fingers and forgive us
Cough cough
but god lied
a paradox means its not true
It's not a paradox technically
And in what way did God lie?
yes it is, if im all powerfull, but i need someone else to do something, was i all powerfull?
Again nobody can say that God "needed" to do things that way, as in couldn't have chosen to do it another way
What we can say is he chose to do things in this way
exactly, since god isnt real
god is unknowable, so you cant know
I agree with you it's mysterious why Christs death on the cross was necessary or even if it was
But that's a different question then if God is real
and besides, that was 2000 years ago, get over it
So you are atheist? No religious orientation?
the jews and the romans killed him, not me, im not required to believe in jesus to go to heaven
im deistsic mostly
Hmm interesting
So you believe in God but not religion
mostly, i believe in a powerfull agent that created the universe, and is in charge of free will and our perceptions of it and everything
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That's cool.