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2019-04-24 21:46:26 UTC  

I see

2019-04-24 21:46:54 UTC  

so it is not viewed as polytheism because Jesus pbuh is one with God

2019-04-24 21:46:55 UTC  

right?

2019-04-24 21:47:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/570727501551370250/trinity_artwork_1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/570727501551370252/trinity1_1.gif

2019-04-24 21:47:50 UTC  

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN it is not considered polytheism because there is only one God as these two diagrams show

2019-04-24 21:48:10 UTC  

You could think of how a human has a mind, body and soul but is still one person

2019-04-24 21:48:28 UTC  

I see

2019-04-24 21:49:03 UTC  

I don't deny that the doctrine of the trinity can be confusing and strange in some ways.

2019-04-24 21:49:23 UTC  

But it is not as hard to conceive as one might imagine at first.

2019-04-24 21:49:46 UTC  

It's really no different than how a triangle can have 3 distinct sides but be only one triangle.

2019-04-24 21:51:15 UTC  

It even explains how the three components can be equal and yet the father is still higher than the son and holy spirit. All three points on a triangle are the same but one is above the other two

2019-04-24 21:51:58 UTC  

Father God is above the son and holy spirit hence jesus saying "I and the father are one" but also "the father is greater than I"

2019-04-24 22:00:52 UTC  

but isnt god all powerful?

2019-04-24 22:07:11 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-24 22:07:15 UTC  

God is all powerful

2019-04-24 22:07:21 UTC  

In Islam and Christianity

2019-04-24 22:07:31 UTC  

i dont believe that

2019-04-24 22:08:25 UTC  

You don't believe God is all powerful?

2019-04-24 22:08:33 UTC  

Do you believe in God at all?

2019-04-24 22:08:35 UTC  

if god is all powerfull why does he need jesus?

2019-04-24 22:09:04 UTC  

I'm not sure if we would say God "needs" Jesus per se

2019-04-24 22:09:19 UTC  

but god needed jesus to forgive us right?

2019-04-24 22:09:23 UTC  

Scripturally Jesus always existed with God and as God since the beginning

2019-04-24 22:09:39 UTC  

therefore god didnt have the power to forgive us, and wasnt all powerfull

2019-04-24 22:10:08 UTC  

Oof

2019-04-24 22:10:12 UTC  

but jesus neede to go to earth and die, to forgive us for not following the ten commandments

2019-04-24 22:10:14 UTC  

Debunked

2019-04-24 22:10:48 UTC  

The usual Christian belief is that sin required some sort of atonement and Jesus provided that atonement

2019-04-24 22:10:51 UTC  

Basically

2019-04-24 22:10:55 UTC  

for some reason god cant just snap his fingers and forgive us

2019-04-24 22:11:05 UTC  

Cough cough

2019-04-24 22:11:10 UTC  

I agree with you it's not clear why God didn't just forgive us without the sacrafice of Jesus

2019-04-24 22:11:11 UTC  

but god lied

2019-04-24 22:11:31 UTC  

a paradox means its not true

2019-04-24 22:11:44 UTC  

It's not a paradox technically

2019-04-24 22:11:50 UTC  

And in what way did God lie?

2019-04-24 22:12:10 UTC  

yes it is, if im all powerfull, but i need someone else to do something, was i all powerfull?

2019-04-24 22:12:39 UTC  

Again nobody can say that God "needed" to do things that way, as in couldn't have chosen to do it another way

2019-04-24 22:12:59 UTC  

What we can say is he chose to do things in this way

2019-04-24 22:13:26 UTC  

exactly, since god isnt real

2019-04-24 22:13:44 UTC  

god is unknowable, so you cant know