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Scripturally Jesus always existed with God and as God since the beginning
therefore god didnt have the power to forgive us, and wasnt all powerfull
Oof
but jesus neede to go to earth and die, to forgive us for not following the ten commandments
Debunked
The usual Christian belief is that sin required some sort of atonement and Jesus provided that atonement
Basically
for some reason god cant just snap his fingers and forgive us
Cough cough
I agree with you it's not clear why God didn't just forgive us without the sacrafice of Jesus
but god lied
a paradox means its not true
It's not a paradox technically
And in what way did God lie?
yes it is, if im all powerfull, but i need someone else to do something, was i all powerfull?
Again nobody can say that God "needed" to do things that way, as in couldn't have chosen to do it another way
What we can say is he chose to do things in this way
exactly, since god isnt real
god is unknowable, so you cant know
I agree with you it's mysterious why Christs death on the cross was necessary or even if it was
and besides, that was 2000 years ago, get over it
So you are atheist? No religious orientation?
the jews and the romans killed him, not me, im not required to believe in jesus to go to heaven
im deistsic mostly
Hmm interesting
So you believe in God but not religion
mostly, i believe in a powerfull agent that created the universe, and is in charge of free will and our perceptions of it and everything
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That's cool.
I had a good conversation with a deist recently
As long as you recognize the creator I feel you are on the right track.
Do you believe in an after life and or reincarnation?
no i dont believe in an afterlife of sorts
the creator doesnt have that much power
thoughts and attitude changes and can effect reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvShgttIq7I
Just imagine all those that would exist in the "afterlife"
human conscience can affect atoms
Hmm
cook some rice, put some in a jar with labels that have bad words on it, and a jar with good words, and the ba one will rot faster, the good one will be WAY less rotten