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Are you stupid?
Yes
@Cheeki Breeki In the hadiths, there is Taqqiya, not in the Quran. Furthermore, that verse is in context to the time where Jews and Christians were at war against the Muslims.
Also, not everyone follows every hadith you see.
Imagine trying to criticise Islam using the Quran. You have to use history in order for valid criticism to be made.
*Criticize
go eat dirt
Imagine trying to criticize Christianity for using the Ten Commandments
@Deleted User Criticise is also a valid spelling.
im black
So..?
racist^
Ahem. You can't really criticize Christianity for using the Ten Commandments, given that there's really nothing wrong with them. Sorry I have been gone so long. And I'm pretty sure that's the Koran (Quaran..?) is the Islamic holy book, is it not? What verses in the Bible are deemed offensive and hateful against other religions no matter what time it is and in what era?
And before you mentioned the verse I think you're going to mention (the exact book and numbers elude me) is 1 that people claim where the Bible supports rape, which is untrue given the fact that it condemns rape in the very first before it's saying that they should be put to death.
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that speak of war with nonbelievers, usually on the basis of their status as non-Muslims. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
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@Cheeki Breeki It's called the Quran, I don't know where 'Koran' comes from. The Old Testament was deemed offensive and was changed, but Jesus never condemned what happened in the OT. Personally I think the Bible contradicts its morality, not to mention the absolute morality of the Christian God, as he ordered David to rape another man's wife in 2 Samuels.
The 109 verses are again taken out of context. They are in context to war times where Muslims are fighting against Jews and Christians. Infidelity is also present in Christianity too. The hypocrites you are talking about are called Munaqfins and they are people who Muslims think aren't even Muslims as they conceal disbelief.
Too many essays in here
“hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.” Mat 7:5
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@Deleted User Jesus condemned a lot of what people were doing...
What...
Doesn't matter. Would you say many Christians are 'christ-like'?
The entire New Testament was about Jesus vs the Prophets
No Christian is like Christ
No. I meant the atrocities committed by God.
In the OT.
Such as the massacre of the canaanites.
Like sodom?
So let me rephrase your question.
Are you asking why did God punish the people in Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim as well as other seemingly horrible events such as flooding the world, allowing Job to be tested by the devil, and other events that would seem as though God was unloving?
It would contradict the fact he is morally absolute.
Is that the question your asking
Yes or no
Yeah, why would he do those things if he is morally absolute?
Allow me some time for a fully thought out response
Okay
I must rebuttal as humbly as I could possibly be, in the grace of God, so that His word can be spoken through me. In the story of Sodom, Genesis 19, it tells us that there was a forewarning by angels. That those who wished to leave, had the opportunity to do so, for the city was corrupt with evil and would be destroyed.
“12 The two angels said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.” 14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the Lord is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.”
In fact, earlier on in Chapter 18, Abraham begged God to Not destroy Sodom, this was the conversation that proves that aside from Lot and his family, there were no followers of God there.
“22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord. 23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”
27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes, 28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”
“If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”
29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”
He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”
30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”
He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”
He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”
32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.”