"There must be some sort of punishment structure or the child will turn into a libtard" - big cringe.

But yeah, beating and raping kids does tend to result in model conservatives, I'll agree with that.

The GOP and religious conservative community is full of shining examples of what child abuse causes people to become.

Yeah, there are some countries in europe that have completely outlawed corporal punishment in the home and at school I think

and their kids don't turn out all that bad

That assumes that there are effective rehabilitation strategies and there aren't really.

Rehabilitation has only really be shown to be effective in informal settings

and even so, it's not super effective

I wonder if we could get a psychology doctor or something to weigh in on this

Rehabilitation works if you dont make it a crime

simple

I study crime

Countries with low reoffending rates have allowed rampant actions to go unenforced

it's just that simple

Yeah but we're talking about disobedience with kids

this luxury prison is a meme

not necessarily the focus of crime

yes

kids do crime

simple as

Prevention is our main avenue. You prevent someone from becoming a criminal in the first place.

which deals more with the way criminals tend to act

death penalty for all

juveniles can receive the death penalty in texas

which is what i admire

na that's unconstitutional

they can receive life sentences though

> unconstitutional

kek

Yes but studying adult crime vs child crime is very different

there was a court case on the death penalty for juveniles and it was ruled that you can't kill them

and anyway this isn't even just about crimes anyway. It's more like child disobedience in general

child disobedience can grow into criminality

it's ok

if left unchecked

we kill them at 18

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Yes but what I'm saying is that we want to focus on specifically that area

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Norway

Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world, currently 20%,[1] with approximately 3,933 offenders in prison,[2] and one of the lowest crime rates in the world.[3] Norway's prisons are renowned for being some of the best and most humane in the world. Norway does not have the death penalty or sentence people to life imprisonment. The maximum custodial sentence is 21 years

Breivik sure enjoys it