Message from @babyfriend1

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2019-10-06 18:24:36 UTC  

Like if your dog pees on the carpet, you might give it a light punishment in the very same day; you wouldn't think that a punishment 6 months later would be effective. It connects the crime and punishment in a singular thought.

2019-10-06 18:25:13 UTC  

When the crime and punishment have a long distance in time in between each other. They become disconnected psychologically.

2019-10-06 18:59:41 UTC  

@⭐ trunks ⭐ That sample size is too small. It'd be better if you looked at non-anecdotal evidence to draw conclusions from

2019-10-06 19:03:03 UTC  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_economics @Pelth The intertemporal choice section pretty much agrees with that

2019-10-06 19:47:11 UTC  

Countries with low reoffending rates are far more focused on rehabilitation rather than punishment. You know the ones, with the "luxurious" prisons

2019-10-06 19:47:40 UTC  

Severe punishments (including fear of the death penality) seem not to work all that well.

2019-10-06 19:48:45 UTC  

"There must be some sort of punishment structure or the child will turn into a libtard" - big cringe.

2019-10-06 19:49:12 UTC  

But yeah, beating and raping kids does tend to result in model conservatives, I'll agree with that.

2019-10-06 19:50:18 UTC  

The GOP and religious conservative community is full of shining examples of what child abuse causes people to become.

2019-10-06 19:52:27 UTC  

Yeah, there are some countries in europe that have completely outlawed corporal punishment in the home and at school I think

2019-10-06 19:53:51 UTC  

and their kids don't turn out all that bad

2019-10-06 20:20:45 UTC  

That assumes that there are effective rehabilitation strategies and there aren't really.

2019-10-06 20:22:53 UTC  

Rehabilitation has only really be shown to be effective in informal settings

2019-10-06 20:23:07 UTC  

and even so, it's not super effective

2019-10-06 20:23:58 UTC  

I wonder if we could get a psychology doctor or something to weigh in on this

2019-10-06 20:24:09 UTC  

Rehabilitation works if you dont make it a crime

2019-10-06 20:24:10 UTC  

simple

2019-10-06 20:24:12 UTC  

I study crime

2019-10-06 20:24:39 UTC  

Countries with low reoffending rates have allowed rampant actions to go unenforced

2019-10-06 20:24:45 UTC  

it's just that simple

2019-10-06 20:24:47 UTC  

Yeah but we're talking about disobedience with kids

2019-10-06 20:24:51 UTC  

this luxury prison is a meme

2019-10-06 20:24:57 UTC  

not necessarily the focus of crime

2019-10-06 20:25:01 UTC  

yes

2019-10-06 20:25:03 UTC  

kids do crime

2019-10-06 20:25:04 UTC  

simple as

2019-10-06 20:25:06 UTC  

Prevention is our main avenue. You prevent someone from becoming a criminal in the first place.

2019-10-06 20:25:08 UTC  

which deals more with the way criminals tend to act

2019-10-06 20:25:11 UTC  

death penalty for all

2019-10-06 20:25:33 UTC  

juveniles can receive the death penalty in texas

2019-10-06 20:25:36 UTC  

which is what i admire

2019-10-06 20:25:48 UTC  

na that's unconstitutional

2019-10-06 20:26:01 UTC  

they can receive life sentences though

2019-10-06 20:26:08 UTC  

> unconstitutional

2019-10-06 20:26:09 UTC  

kek

2019-10-06 20:26:24 UTC  

Yes but studying adult crime vs child crime is very different

2019-10-06 20:26:39 UTC  

there was a court case on the death penalty for juveniles and it was ruled that you can't kill them

2019-10-06 20:26:55 UTC  

and anyway this isn't even just about crimes anyway. It's more like child disobedience in general

2019-10-06 20:27:06 UTC  

child disobedience can grow into criminality

2019-10-06 20:27:12 UTC  

it's ok

2019-10-06 20:27:12 UTC  

if left unchecked