Message from @DjPhoenix

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2019-10-08 22:01:19 UTC  

Don't try and act like you know shit

2019-10-08 22:01:22 UTC  

When you don't.

2019-10-08 22:01:31 UTC  

Go learn nursery stuff first.

2019-10-08 22:01:33 UTC  

Workers work harder when they have more to work for.

2019-10-08 22:01:46 UTC  

Simple.

2019-10-08 22:01:58 UTC  

If we assume cateris paribus then yes.

2019-10-08 22:02:00 UTC  
2019-10-08 22:02:35 UTC  

only if you're raising wages in one position or line

2019-10-08 22:02:50 UTC  

Pelth if you think I'm going to waste any more of my precious time on your useless life.

2019-10-08 22:02:53 UTC  

if you raise it universally, it just universally pushes everything up and nothing changes in the long term

2019-10-08 22:03:00 UTC  

Wrong but I can't be bothered.

2019-10-08 22:03:10 UTC  

you might get some unemployment until things restabilize

2019-10-08 22:03:21 UTC  

but it will balance back out to the same proportional value

2019-10-08 22:03:23 UTC  

Read modern monetary theory

2019-10-08 22:03:25 UTC  

*Some small business can't afford that 14 dollar minimum wage*

2019-10-08 22:03:30 UTC  

*15

2019-10-08 22:03:34 UTC  

oof

2019-10-08 22:03:39 UTC  

Yes, small businesses will have troubles.

2019-10-08 22:04:00 UTC  

Either increasing their products price or letting workers off.

2019-10-08 22:04:07 UTC  

^ unemployment

2019-10-08 22:04:12 UTC  

Yes.

2019-10-08 22:04:18 UTC  

This should probably be moved to economics

2019-10-08 22:04:46 UTC  

Probably but I want to see more throttles vs pleth action

2019-10-08 22:04:56 UTC  

Oh me too but

2019-10-08 22:05:09 UTC  

That can happen in economics lol

2019-10-08 22:05:23 UTC  

No u

2019-10-08 22:05:37 UTC  

throttles subscribes too much to these brainlet tier economic theories though

2019-10-08 22:05:41 UTC  

Fuck, you got me

2019-10-08 22:05:41 UTC  

he takes them as the gospel

2019-10-08 22:05:54 UTC  

when in reality they have a very loose statistical correlation with anything

2019-10-08 22:09:33 UTC  

in economics courses they really need a disclaimer that says, this is all just if we assume x, y, z... are true

2019-10-08 22:10:11 UTC  

Yes, there are many variables but we teach the most likely outcome in most cases.

2019-10-08 22:17:50 UTC  

@Pelth not really, these economic theories is what our economic systems are based off

2019-10-08 22:18:31 UTC  

Also provide a citation for "loose statistical correlation with anything"

2019-10-08 22:21:59 UTC  

My main beef with MMT is the jobs guarantee

2019-10-08 22:22:41 UTC  

I feel they also overstate the tax-as-demand function, partly because they are correct on the EARLY history of money, but they don't say much about the last 500 years

2019-10-08 22:23:12 UTC  

Bringing Grabers stuff into the mix was good but that sort of pre-history misses so much since say Italian banking in the late middle ages and on

2019-10-08 22:26:40 UTC  

their identity of gov deficit equal savings is also broken, but it's hard to argue because they have redefined the meanings of things like 'asset' with regard to the balance sheets of central banks. Monetary policy and fiscal policy are very different beasts.

2019-10-08 22:27:46 UTC  

Minimum wages are silly, there is no need to directly interfere in labor market. A UBI is a better tool, give it without means testing and you get the same results without the need for technocrats in the middle, which I suspect is part of the issue

2019-10-08 22:27:46 UTC  

GG @Sh0t, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-10-08 23:53:01 UTC  

Yeah, and minimum wages are hard to enforce. Lots of times work that the workers do at home that they still get paid for (ie someone makes a presentation to present at work the next day) goes under the radar