Message from @PohTayToes
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Christians who are actually not lying about their faith, want to be more like Jesus. But that’s impossible, no one can be perfect as Jesus. Jesus was without sin. While we, people have sin.
So no
Need for sacrifice?
I don’t think I understood what you meant there.
A need for sacrifice in order to be perfect like Jesus?
Aye, that
The whole Lamb idea
So hold on.
I see.
So we need to sacrifice something (for an example, a lamb) to be perfect like Jesus?
Not that a sacrifice needs to be made, no
But that, according to biblical lore, that it already has been made
Due to the inherent sinfulness of People, we would be incapable of living as Jesus did
You’re referring to the crucifixion?
Aye
Or Jesus's sacrifice
Are you sure you understand the point of the crucifixion and how it relates to sin?
However you want to address it as
Here hold on
The purpose of the sacrifice was to create an eternal promise of access into heaven through the covenant of Jesus's blood being spilled to substitute for the necessary sacrifice to remove sin from humanity
As previously lambs were viewed as a symbol of innocence, as well as being a prized portion of the herd, they were used chiefly as the sacrifice to erase the sins of the Hebrew people, as we see within the attempted sacrifice of Isaac
This is the origin for the moniker of the Lamb being attributed to Jesus as well
Prior to being an atheist I was debating on attending a seminary school and was a bible camp counselor, so I've got a fairly good grasp on the crucifixion lol
GG @PohTayToes, you just advanced to level 3!
Well you saved me writing a paragraph at least
I also still own 3 bibles, one of which is a Masonic bible
So what’s your main issue with Christianity?
Hypocrisy, as with any religion
Even Buddhism pushes me away due to it
As much as I enjoy the Zen idealism, the hypocrisy still remains
So you believe basically the Bible teaches ethics and morale that people who don’t believe or haven’t read the bible, don’t already have these morales and don’t submit to it?
Not so much. It depends on the region they live
Region? Hm.
That’s new ok I’m listening
If they live within North America or Europe, their value system is clearly going to be more in line with the Judeo-Christian ethics and morals, which has largely become ubiquitous on an international scale. I attribute this largely to the switch to Christianity within the Roman Empire's history, as the Romans and Greeks have largely been the foundation of western society and civilization.
However, as we move into different regions we see changes within the local opinion on morality and ethics
Even within countries that largely share Judeo-Christian values we can see a difference
For example, a great indicator of this is what's made readily accessible and viewable on TV
In the US, nudity and sexyality is seen as being greatly immodest and indecent, largely
And this shows within the available programming