The same systemic values you can find pretty much everywhere, and they all have a common root in biology.

Hairy Potter was a big seller to.
The Dead Sea Scolls read like the Potter isle at Barnes and Noble.
Ver 1, Ver 1.a, Ver 2, Ver 2 in Greek.

It was just a popular story amongst illiterate goat herders that had no clue.

Then the intellectuals of 1k CE polished it for 500 years.

They still missed a lot of holes though.

It absolutely was not written by “illiterate goat herders” lol

It fully was

then why was the story in oral tradition for 1k years before it saw parchment and quill?

The new testament wasn't even recorded in real time.

GG @wuzamarine, you just advanced to level 6!

Perhaps it was, but the people that compiled it were some of the most educated people of their time. It’s not intellectually honest to discount it as being the product of the uneducated

3rd tier to.

There are also copies of the New Testament from long before 1000CE, and that’s not even getting into the Old Testament, which is far older than that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible#Table_IV:_New_Testament

The New Testament was started 50 years after the fact. That was only the first couple of paragraphs.

The edits continued up until the 1500s

They’re both a load of horseshit

That bible has more holes than swiss cheese

Ok? 50 years is not that long when you’re dealing with ancient documents. It’s certainly not 1000 years, which is what you initially said

The people who wrote it to was to politically control the masses

@abby_ella
How many old vets do you know that are not full of shit?

What do you think history is?

@abby_ella

the first thing you look for is verifiablility.
if the story cannot be 3rd party verified, you may not have absolutely nothing but the creditbility of the author comes seriously into play.

Paul was not known to be a reliable source.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2015/09/how-reliable-is-apostle-paul-when-he-knew-very-little-about-jesus/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reliability_of_the_Acts_of_the_Apostles#Historicity

So is your definition of history on applicable to things that can be “3rd party verified?”

That is the minimal standard for proof.

That’s too narrow a definition of what history is. History is also about interpretation

God is fucking gay

He’s a little coward bitch boy

So maybe the authors of the Bible interpreted things incorrectly, but the fact that they interpreted things at all has value to a historian. Their interpretations and understanding of events constitute a part of the history of those events

The definition of history is "his" "story"
But if your information is not 3rd party verifiable, what you have is "his" "roumor".

@abby_ella
Which interpreteation is the correct one?

In math, science, facts, any sane court, two questions can have the same answer but two answers cannot have the same question.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction

Lol about that point and courts

But the that may be true in math, but math is not history

facts are verifiable. If your fact is not verifiable, you never had a fact to begin with.

Christianity is as much of a cult and a scam as Scientology

@mofth You became 100% correct in the late 1500s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum
A coverup is a free confession.

Precisely

Jesus promised to rid the world of sin. There’s still sin. Odin promised to rid the world of ice giants. Seen any ice giants lately?

Yes

> swedes

Does this count?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/world/iceberg-breaks-off-antarctica-glacier-scn-intl/index.html

I call bullshit

No

And Odin isn't the protector of mankind, Thor is